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  1. I was having a conversation earlier and there was a suggestion that there is a lot of cops don't make much use of the power to stop vehicles as much as they used to - for whatever reason. I think section 163 of the Road Traffic Act is great.... it allows you to stop anybody driving a car and you can do some digging on them, should you feel it warranted. If you watch programmes like Traffic Cops, Police Interceptors, Road Wars, etc these guys get some great results just from pulling cars over and being thorough when doing their stops. So, my question is, how often do you make use of this power? And if you don't, why don't you? Do you feel that your colleagues are under using 163? I've made a brief poll but please feel free to comment and discuss below.
  2. I assume that the Lancashire officers are familiar with the case of Andrew Blades, one of your officers who has lost his job following a manoeuvre with a vehicle that resulted in a minor damage only collision according to news reports. If not, see here:- https://www.policespecials.com/forum/index.php/topic/150876-mp-slams-scandal-of-special-convicted-of-dangerous-driving/#entry2683796 I see the media is reporting that his case is being raised at various levels of government, including with the Director of Public Prosecutions. My question is, do you know of anything being done to help him and challenge the madness that has happened regarding this offence?
  3. Hi all, I have a 1990 Land Rover Defender which has two side facing bench seats in the rear, Each seat is able to seat two people. I've done lots of research and I can't seem to find a definitive answer to the question of are seatbelt required by law or not? I realise this isn't a legal advice page but would appreciate any help on this matter! Thanks in advance :new_yes:
  4. Evening all, A neighbour of a friend is a part time used car dealer (what joy!) and has recently started parking cars on the street in front of neighbouring properties. Is he guilty of any offence (the cars unfortunately don't obstruct the highway). Any traffic boffins know of anything he could be guilty under? Thanks in advance
  5. This surprised me a bit to be honest, I knew this was being discussed in the Scottish Parliament but didn't realise things had progressed this far.
  6. DeltaBravo92

    Tax Discs

    As I am not a PC, this doesn't actually affect me, but I saw this the other day, and it got me thinking. Car parked and unattended roadside. In the Tax Disc Holder was an out of date disk, however on the dashboard was the new, in date, tax disk. Would the owner still get a ticket for displaying an OOD disk, or would having the live disk visible nullify this? Is there any penalty for displaying two disks? Hope that makes sense!
  7. Anglo-Saxon

    Special in training

    Hi all, just a quick question. I'm currently going through training in PSoS and have a question regarding Section 4 Road Traffic Act. Section 4 states that it is an offence for any person to drive, attempt to drive or be in charge of a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or public place whilst unfit through drink or drugs. Section 5 states that it is also illegal, however it also quotes that the alcohol just be over the prescribed limit. Would this mean that in theory you could be arrested for drink driving whilst below the limit as Section 4 only mentions that you must be 'unfit through drink or drugs'. Cheers!
  8. Again, apologies as I'm pre-training.. You see a cyclist swerving around on the road, causing drivers to swerve and upon stopping you clearly see the rider is drunk. Apart from dangerous cycling, would you arrest for S30 RTA or S12 Licensing Act 1972? What would make you choose one over the other? Thanks

    The Classroom

    A place for all of our lovely new recruits, once they have started their enjoyable time at Tally Ho! to come together and ask questions etc. Hopefully some of us "old sweats" might be able to help from time to time
  10. thought the officers dealt with it well though the guy dragged it out big time. part 1. part 2. part 3. and here's a video of him explaining in a little detail how he apparently gets around the whole inconvenience of playing by the rules. Where has this "freeman" effect come from and to what degree is there an element of truth in what they believe in? Until i had visited this site i had never heard of it and am surprised at how many times it crops up.
  11. For the purposes of the RTA and public order offences, is a university campus a public place? In particular student accomodation areas and recreation areas. Most campuses have gate security and require vehicles/persons to book in and have a pass allocated for the duration of their stay and students/staff must produce valid ID, although taxis and takeaway vehicles appear to be able to roam free. Does this still make it a public place? I ask because of the need to sometimes deal with drunken students, either side of the gates at the request of the campus security. Cheers, Andy
  12. This is a predicament. I own a nice 11-year old car (in very good condition, only c25K miles on the clock) which about 18 months ago I lent to a ex family friend so he could drive to and from work in London ~ the journey would have been awkward on public transport. The borrower was registered as keeper so he became responsible for expenses; we ticked the box "keeper" on the application to DVLA. About March/April 2013 I requested the car be returned to me; the borrower agreed but did not return the car until early July 2013 (after he had lost his job). Late in July 2013 I applied to be registered at DVLA as keeper then I took my car for service and MOT; the former borrower followed me to the service centre and flashing the logbook in his name and his driver's licence, persuaded the service centre owner to release the car to him. DVLA had and still have not registered me as keeper (they have a backlog). The garage owner also gave the former borrower my set of car keys. The former borrower refuses to give the car back to me on the basis that he is the registered keeper. The Metropolitan Police have declined to get involved asserting that this is a civil matter. The Met did advise me that I could simply have the car towed (I know where the borrower keeps it on the street near his home). The dealership I bought the car from is willing to provide me with a replacement key which will they say unlock the steering wheel (but not start the car, because of the immobilzer) so the car can be towed to the dealership where the replacement key will be programmed with the immobilizer data so that the key can be used to ignite the motor. My concern is that if I have the car towed, the borrower will call the Met who will treat the matter as theft (despite their previous advice, if the borrower asserts ownership such an outcome is possible I suppose) or TWOC and/or that the borrower on reporting the matter to the Met will (through ANPR for instance) tell him where the car is and then the borrower will repeat his trick at the dealership of demanding return of the car of which he is the registered keeper. I could get the dealership to change the locks completely but the borrower as registered keeper could get them changed back. Hurry up DVLA! but they have now asked if I still have the car (it seems that they heard from the service [and MOT] centre owner and have doubts as to who has the car): I don't still have it but once I get it towed I will have it. If I do get the car towed, what do I do with the borrower's tax disc and residents' parking permit: return them to him in the post perhaps. And round and round I go, with my head spinning! Does anyone have absolutely anything at all to say about this?!? All comments gratefully received. My username here is Blastproof but I don't feel that way at all !
  13. I didn't really think this needed to go in News, despite the fact that the police are in the video. However mods, feel free to chuck it where you like! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-22599596 No seatbelt for the child, no car seat and he's smoking to top it all off. I hope Leicestershire Police gives him a visit. If he's prepared to act like that in front of am international news organisation, what does he act like behind closed doors?
  14. Heard about this the other day when I popped into my station. Was initially surprised to hear that attempted murder was charged, but on hearing more of the details the charge is absolutely correct. Glad that it has stuck and that they have been found guilty. Hopefully the sentence will reflect the severity of the charge.
  15. I was recently stopped on my way home from work and given a fixed penalty notice for not displaying an L plate on the rear of my bike. I have one displayed on the front and as far as i was aware i had one on the rear also. After i was stopped i immediately rectified the fault by purchasing a new set of plates, which i still have the receipt for. What can i do about it as i really dont want to have 3 points?. EDIT: I pointed out to the officer that i did have one fitted as indicated by the screws which remained in the number plate.
  16. When you stop vehicles under s.163 RTA as a routine traffic stop, what paperwork do you complete? I came across someone recently who had been instructed to complete a 5090 slip, recording it as a 'stop and account' for every vehicle they stopped. All have been recorded on the Stops Database now. I've never seen that done before, does anyone else do this? Thoughts?...
  17. TROOPER8555

    Quick Question

    Guy & Girls The situation is that a guy at work has provided me with evidence (video clearly able to ID index etc) of vehicles using the hard shoulder of the M1 during heavy traffic between junctions where no restrictions are in place requiring/allowing the use of the hard shoulder it was just one of those SWOT days. I did not want to put him off doing his bit, so what would you do with the information?
  18. Cuddles

    Traffic Offence Report

    We in Lancashire Constabulary will shortly be rolling out Traffic Offence Reports (TORs) to replace the roadside EFPN and seatbelt tickets. My understanding is that this will be rolled out nationally. The basic premise is that rather than issuing the tickets at the roadside we will complete a TOR. The central process unit will then ascertain the offender's suitability for a training course in lieu of a fixed penalty and if they are eligible they will have the option of attending a course (or completing online training or a workbook in the case of seatbelt offences), paying a fixed penalty or going to court. I have received my TOR book although I'm not allowed to use it yet and it is pretty much like a standard FPN except there is no option to surrender the licence at the roadside and therefore no tear-off slip to act in lieu of a licence. Also, instead of force specific offence codes there is now a set of standardised codes. I don't know what to make of the idea as I'm not exactly traffic orientated but it should be interesting to see how it pans out. Are any other forces rolling this out yet? What are your thoughts?
  19. Administrative Account

    Police Driving - Legal Vulnerabilities

    Source: Hampshire Police Federation Police Pursuit.pdf Police Pursuit ACPO.pdf
  20. Smiley Culture

    Yet another traffic conundrum

    So, we pulled over a car that had no L-plates (but was being driven as if it should have had some) and carried out a DL check on the driver, only to discover that he did indeed have a provisional licence. It just so happened that the passenger was over 21 and had a full licence - however, it was Dutch rather than British. Cue lots of headscratching, followed by a PTP to the traffic unit, who did some headscratching of their own before deciding that someone holding a Dutch licence couldn't supervise a British learner driver after all. One summons file later, I decided to look it up in my Blackstones out of idle curiosity - but according to that source, a "qualified driver" for the purposes of the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1999 includes someone holding an EC [EU?] licence. So, what do you folks in the Parade Room think? (Mods - if you think this can go in the public area rather than the Parade Room then feel free to move it).
  21. Administrative Account

    Don't poke me, I'm driving!

    I've just come across these PDF's produced by IAM (Institute of Advanced Motorists) showing the effects of mobile phone, and particularly smart phone, usage whilst driving. There are some interesting comparisons to drink/drug driving in the documents, too. The summary is here: http://www.iam.org.u...udy-booklet.pdf The full research is here: http://www.iam.org.u...R592_secure.pdf
  22. Some of you may have read/ seen the pursuit of a vehicle in Hampshire that lead to the prosecution of the two RPU officers in the lead police vehicle that pursued the subject vehicle. The article (see link) is written by the defence barrister for the two officers and makes some very good points. It has certainly made me think twice about a lot of things... http://www.hampshirepolfed.org.uk/pubs/120410b.pdf