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Techie1 posted a topic in Police Oracle FeaturesPension schemes also at risk from incoming reforms to police recruitment, it is feared. Joan Donnelly from the Police Federation says she finds it 'shocking' that chiefs do not yet know what apprentices will be paid Chiefs have been criticised for not having decided what apprentices are going to be paid a year before the introduction of the new route into the job. Forces have already had an effective per cent budget cut as they are now paying 0.5 per cent of the cost of their total salaries towards the government’s apprenticeship levy. The College of Policing and NPCC have previously said that they want policing apprenticeships to be up and running in 2018. The reform is one of a myriad being planned by senior officers, including making having a degree a requirement for non-apprentices, and making most existing allowances part of pay. Proposals drawn up so far suggest that apprentices could be paid 20 per cent less than current probationer constables. Joan Donnelly, a researcher for the Police Federation of England and Wales, calculates that the average officer currently has a disposable income - after housing and bills are taken into account - of about £35 a month, and that the average starting age of an officer is 28. “We are concerned that an unintended consequence of reducing apprentices' wages so much is that policing will become a profession for 18-year-olds and no one else. “The unintended consequence will be on how policing is seen – a lack of life experience and a big change to the culture of policing,” she said. Mike Brown, also from the Fed, warned that the result could be further changes to existing and future pensions too. “There is a danger that less people will join police pension scheme, making it less sustainable. “And I don’t think anyone wants to see further changes in the police pension scheme,” he said. Chief Constable Francis Habgood, NPCC lead for pay issues, told the discussion which took place at the Police Federation Conference that the current police regulations make it difficult to design a new pay level for apprenticeships. He said: “Please don’t go out and think this is about a 20 per cent reduction, because that is something that was an option. “We do need to make sure that this is an attractive offer for everyone at any stage of their lives because that life experience is fantastic.” He added: “One of the things we do need to think about is […] in the future we’re going to have police officers coming in who have a degree and probably £50,000 plus of debt, or we’re going to have people coming in as an apprentice who will have zero debt because everything will be paid for and they will earn. “I don’t know what the right answer is […]. I think we need to look at what the market is doing in other sectors on high level apprenticeships.” But Ms Donnelly said: “I find it really shocking that you’re saying you don’t know what the pay will be for apprentices yet, and your saying you don’t know whether it will be a 20 per cent reduction – because this is going to be introduced, you’ve said it’s going to get lots of bright new talent in, but you don’t know what the offer is. These things are fundamental.” View on Police Oracle
Techie1 posted a topic in Police Oracle FeaturesChairman of the Scottish Police Federation described the payments a "significant issue" for members The Scottish Police Federation is challenging Police Scotland over special payments to armed officers who protect the royal family on holiday. Police Scotland stopped enhanced payments to officers for the previous two summers for protecting Her Majesty The Queen and the Royals while they holidayed in the Highlands. In the past the force made the payments due to officers being far away from friends and family and remained “on call”. However, the “held in reserve” payments have been ditched as Police Scotland attempts to close a £190 million funding gap by 2021, according to the Sunday Post. The situation has resulted in an officer, backed by the fed, initiating a judicial review of the decision at the highest civil court in Scotland, the Court of Session. The officer bringing the case is one of many who provide protection for the Royals costing an estimated £100 million per year. Prior to the unification of Scottish forces providing protection for the Royals was the responsibility of the eight regional forces dependent on where the Windsors were. This meant officers were able to return home after being on duty and, as such, did not qualify for the payments. Police Scotland argue the officers based at Balmoral do not qualify for the payments despite them being enshrined in rules by the Police Negotiating Board. A decision on the matter is expected in the next few weeks and general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation Calum Steele says they had “little option” but to pursue the matter legally. He said: “This is a significant issue for our officers. “The force has changed its approach to the reimbursement of officers and we are challenging it. “We have tried to resolve this long before the Court of Sessions action but feel little option but to go down the legal route.” A spokesman for Police Scotland said: “We will not comment on this as it involves an active legal case.” View on Police Oracle
I am doing some research about the payment of Specials for a presentation I am giving in the near future. More info about that when the time is right But for now I need to get an understanding of what schemes are being proposed or trialled. I have ploughed through existing payment threads, from which I have found out the following: Police forces definitely running trial schemes Cumbria West Midlands Humberside Grampian Tayside Of these, most seem to be looking at a 180 hour-per-year commitment for which they pay an annual "bounty" of £1,000. Police forces which might be running schemes Surrey TVP South Wales Police And of these, the only info I have is that SWP might be running a scheme paying an annual bounty linked to length of service and capped at £2,500 per officer. Other information Looks like the PSNI (Police Service of Northern Ireland) are paying their reservists (NI equivalent of Special Constables) at the rate of about £9 per duty hour plus £41 per month. So... can you help me? I don't want this to be another discussion thread, I am just trying to gather correct information here. So if you have anything about the payment trials which you know to be correct then please answer in this thread so I can update my information. If you do want to discuss pros and cons of payment (who doesn't!) then this thread is an excellent place to go.
The following payment model is based on schemes already running in UK forces: Based on the above and on the understanding that particpation would still be a matter of personal choice, would you agree to such a scheme being made available to all Special Constables in your force area? Please note that this thread is Poll Only! You can discuss the proposal here Vote now .......