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Haris last won the day on June 13 2017

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  1. There is an AFO in Cheshire and she is just under 5 feet. Just saying!
  2. Haris

    New Torch

    Just adding my two cents here. Purchased a LED Lenser after my police issued flashlight died on me.
  3. Haris

    Books on Policing

    I'm presently reading: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Taggarts-Glasgows-Post-War-Crimebusters/dp/1785301349/ref=lp_759258_1_12?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1506413766&sr=1-12 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tactical-Communications-Professionally-Aggressive-Non-Verbal/dp/0969769636/ref=sr_1_17?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1506413848&sr=1-17&keywords=Gary+Foo
  4. Haris

    first aid training

    For EFAW, training on a DEFIB is an added extra as per HSE Standards: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l74.pdf#page=36 Ref: Automated external defibrillators 44 Where an employer decides to provide a defibrillator in the workplace, those who may need to use it should be trained (see ‘Further information’). Training can provide additional knowledge and skills and may promote greater confidence in the use of a defibrillator.
  5. Haris

    first aid training

    GMP are trained to EFAW standard with add on for AED.
  6. Haris

    Do any cadet forces get identification cards?

    Please don't confuse I.D card with a "Warrant Card". In the United Kingdom, a warrant card is evidence of a constable's sworn attestation.
  7. Haris

    Choosing where you police

    Jre you can ask to be placed in an area that is closer or convenient to you. My first choice was changed by supervision as I lived very close to the station. But my second choice is perfect because I am able to commute and get a locker too ;).
  8. This! The first fight I attended on night time economy duty, my helmet ended up yards away and a kind door supervisor found it and returned it to me.
  9. Haris

    Patrol Boots

    I recently purchased a pair of magnum after a wonderful member of the public decided to regurgitate their stomach contents on my last boots. I must say, these the the most comfortable boots I have worn since joining the specials. Well worth the 60 pounds sterling.
  10. That shield looks like it belongs to the Department of State Bureau of Diplomatic Security agent. I have seen one once boarding a flight on Heathrow, you would think they would keep their profession a bit more secret!
  11. Happy to stay as SC for the length of my service with my force.
  12. Haris

    Dutysheet app

    Thank goodness :D, I used to hate using the website on my mobile phone because of the small screen.
  13. Haris

    Routine Arming of Officers

    More tasers for regular colleagues would be welcome.
  14. As specials we need to remember that we are a force multiplier for the police, this is because that whilst the core focus of the police is fighting crime and protecting people the protecting people is still important, the police is relied upon more and more as a result of other support services feeling the burden of budget cuts and operational restrictions. And whilst volume crime is the bread and butter of policing in an urban area, sadly as a result of the mental health crisis being faced by the over burdened and struggling NHS(1) services such as the police and ambulance often are left to pick up the pieces. As front line officers its difficult to understand why people are allowed to call in to 999 and control put a grade 1 or 2 concern for welfare in for male/female. Well lets start with the college of policing code of ethics: Accountability Integrity Openness Fairness Leadership Respect Honesty Objectivity Selflessness. I have highlighted the ones in bold that apply here. Now lets look at the grading and call handling guidelines. In the UK the Police control use what is called the NSIR: national standards for incident reporting(2) which supplements the ACPO Graded response Standards (3). As per the college of policing standards for police call handling: An emergency contact encompasses circumstances where an incident is reported to the police which is taking place and in which there is, or is likely to be a risk of: • Danger to life • Use, or immediate threat of use, of violence • Serious injury to a person and/or • Serious damage to property The Ambulance in the UK have dispatchers trained and certified by the National Academy of Emergency Medical Dispatch and follow the MPDS : Medical priority dispatch system which was developed in the US (3). As per the Principles of Emergency Medical dispatch 14th Edition Protocol 25 - Psychiatric/Abnormal Behavior/Suicide Attempt: Axiom 1 of Protocol 25 states: Behavioral emergency patients (at any level of consciousness) are considered to be a potential risk to themselves or others. So we see a continuing theme here, the key here being if the caller is a potential risk to themselves or others then its a concern for public welfare which falls within the remit of the police. It is easy to criticize the decision of the control room operator or call handler but we must remember whilst we see the actual reality when we attend a job, we don't necessarily hear what the call handler or dispatcher hears over the phone, s/he has to risk assess and allocate the job appropriately based on the scraps of information they are being provided. Regarding not having sufficient training to respond to a concern or someone who has MN issues is not an excuse to not be able to use common sense, there are plenty of websites that offer useful advice such as Dementia Friends, MIND charity(4) etc. The key focus here being that you assess the welfare needs of that person and using the NDM and your tools (pnc, systems),common sense and professional judgement, does that person have: 1. Capacity 2. Has or likely to commit Self Harm 3. Likely to commit or talked about suicide 4. Do they pose a risk to themselves or the public? If they do then you have the powers under Section 136 of the mental health act. As suggested by others on the thread, mental illness and mental health is a very large subject and its very topical and emotive so a grassroots level understanding of the subject is very important for all front line emergency service personnel. Remember that it's okay to not be okay and sometimes people don't know who to turn to and often it is the police or allied emergency services that are the first to respond to that cry for help. If anyone still is unsure about why concerns for welfare need police attendance, then this is something they should bring up with their supervision who can point them back to the the COE, NDM and force policy. Remember that a IDVA can fill a DASH in on a domestic, just like cops can, so why do cops attend all domestics even if it's verbal only as a minimum of grade 2? Is it just to do a DASH?, or is to discharge the duty of care? Now finally coming to the issue of CFR training for specials, all I will say here is that a 1 day EFAW (5) course for front line emergency service works is inadequate, this is my personal opinion. I personally felt uncomfortable just going out with just EFAW so I invested in a First Person on Scene(6) Course to give me a little more confidence when dealing with any medical calls or when I am "first on scene". I strongly advocate extra first aid training for police officers, pcso's and specials this is because we can be a force multiplier for the ambulance, this is not about policing or plastic paramedics, this is about doing whats best for the public. I can say that the £350 i paid out of my own pocket helped me practically when me and a regular colleague were the first to attend a scene where a member of the public had collapsed outside a night club and was convulsing, due to night time traffic the ambulance was sometime away. During this time, I worked with my colleague to keep the females airway open and remembering what I was taught I was able to ask her friends about SAMPLE and was able to give this as a handover to the paramedics when they arrived on the scene who were genuinely thankful that i had managed to capture the basics even though they would do it all over again anyway. Finally, as we have seen with Westminster, Manchester and London Bridge, specials do work in a risky environment and heaven forbid but you may be called on to assist at an incident where you may be outside your comfort zone, so equipping yourself with extra knowledge is never a bad thing. A charity called Citizen aid produce a wonderful pocket sized guide on how to give first aid at terrorism incidents, the app and physical guide are only £1.99 and available from here: http://citizenaid.org/ 1. Major concern was also highlighted that not enough CCGs had a clear and fully funded plan for crisis care, as less than a third (31.6%) had a fully funded plan, whilst 10.5% had no agreed plan or funding set out at all – echoing the findings of a similar report that charity the NSPCC issued in 2016.) 2. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-national-standard-for-incident-recording-nsir-counting-rules 3. http://library.college.police.uk/docs/homeoffice/call_handling_standards.pdf 3. http://www.emergencydispatch.org/ResourcesEDS 4. https://www.mind.org.uk/workplace/training-consultancy/ 5. http://www.sja.org.uk/sja/training-courses/first-aid-courses/emergency-first-aid-at-work.aspx 6. http://qualifications.pearson.com/en/qualifications/healthcare-support/fpos.html
  15. Haris

    Kit Vest or Duty Belt?

    I have been provided a tactical load vest but i just use the duty belt rather than the load vest because most of the time i can only work on weekend nights and the dress order for that is hi vis, custodian & belt order.