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WhiteCapSpecial

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  1. WhiteCapSpecial

    L3 Driving Ban to be lifted...?

    Surely a reason why they shouldn't continue to offer these officers the course... the Traffic Garage where I am based have a huge number of Response drivers still who have been at RTPC for over a year. And yes, I appreciate that everybody is different and people will fail on different things, but three times...?! Absolutely agree with you... waste of resources and money especially if they are failing deliberately!! When there are more deserving officers, and I don't mean specials as I am from a police family, who have a decent length of service, who require the skill, are asking for it and have put the time and effort in to study Roadcraft and are being turned down, it just seems sad!! Budget cuts hey...?!
  2. WhiteCapSpecial

    L3 Driving Ban to be lifted...?

    What doesn't help is the amount of officers who are going for the courses and failing multiple times! I am aware of three officers who have been for their Advanced or TPAC courses more than three times and have failed, and they continue to be offered the training! Surely this is a waste where other officers could be given the opportunity ... and I am in no way referring to MSC here!
  3. WhiteCapSpecial

    L3 Driving Ban to be lifted...?

    What doesn't help is the amount of officers who are going for the courses and failing multiple times! I am aware of three officers who have been for their Advanced or TPAC courses more than three times and have failed, and they continue to be offered the training! Surely this is a waste where other officers could be given the opportunity ... and I am in no way referring to MSC here!
  4. Although she has only just been appointed, anybody have any thoughts on the appointment of the Met's first female top cop? (that is not meant to be a sexist comment in any way... just the way the Media are reporting it!)
  5. WhiteCapSpecial

    L3 Driving Ban to be lifted...?

    I would imagine that if the courses do get offered to the MSC, they would be provided to those officers who are of significant service, have no intention of joining regulars, who put their hours in regularly and where it is more of a necessity to have a Response course. I absolutely agree that within Borough, vehicles are few and far between and there are large numbers of regulars who are still waiting for a Level 3 course - however, in specialisms there is more necessity for officers to have a response course... I was working the other weekend and we had three cars out to cover the whole of the South area and me as a Basic driver... I was unable to assist with a large number of calls because I was simply not able to get to calls because of being Basic... this is where it would benefit the OCU and traffic skippers would be happy to support!
  6. WhiteCapSpecial

    L3 Driving Ban to be lifted...?

    It's already been declared that there will be very few available and will only be available to officers who meet strict criteria - the likelihood is that those that are available will be made to them specialisms, such as RTPC. Having known a number of former driving school instructors, they told me that quite often they held weekend training sessions for MSC response courses so it didn't disadvantage any regs.
  7. WhiteCapSpecial

    L3 Driving Ban to be lifted...?

    Historically, it was: Level 4/Basic - No legal exemptions Level 3/Response - Standard response driving on blue lights etc. and initial phase pursuit trained Level 2/Advanced - Says it on the tin Level 1/TPAC - Says it on the tin Now, off the top of my head it is (but will double check): Basic Response Advanced Covert Advanced - now a separate code on your permit. If you don't complete this, you can only drive response capable Q-cars TPAC
  8. WhiteCapSpecial

    L3 Driving Ban to be lifted...?

    Response driving... means you can respond to I grades using lights and sirens etc. and usually your initial phase pursuit trained.
  9. WhiteCapSpecial

    L3 Driving Ban to be lifted...?

    Has everybody had the chance to read ACO Peltier's update email yet...? Sounds like the L3 ban could be lifted in line with the Commissioner's departure? How likely does everyone think this is to happen?
  10. WhiteCapSpecial

    "Special friendly" boroughs?

    Bromley was very good for specials... I was a MSC skipper on the borough for 18 months and a SC for 18 months before that and was very good. Very pro-specials borough. You will become part of the neighbourhood tasking team which deals with lots of different issues including warrants etc. There is an opportunity once you have successfully completed certain things to do some shifts on response, as well as assisting on the weekend night time economy patrols as well as other MSC planned duties / operations / aid. And no, it's not boring like everyone seems to think...!! I've only just left Bromley to move to the 'dark side' and become a white cap but would recommend it to anyone!!
  11. WhiteCapSpecial

    MSC Review

    Mr Deller's email and newsletter pretty much sums up the interesting stuff. I think there are some real positives in the whole thing though... yes it is disappointing that it appears now front line MSC (or any at all?) were consulted in the review. For supervisors, having a regular MSC manager who's responsibility it will be to liaise and assist in dealing with officers who are not pulling their weight will be a welcome relief - certainly for our Borough where there are currently not enough Skippers for the number of SCs but also arranging small things such as regularly updating email distribution lists (a task compared to climbing Mount Everest it seems!!) and keeping on top of local procedure changes which MSC don't get included in. I think the integration of MSC into specialisms is also a brilliant idea with the RTPC RPT most recently (partly because I've been waiting for it for three years!). Hopefully a significant review of recruitment and training will also help and somebody might have the most sensible idea in the history of the Met by training the officers to L3 PO before coming out to borough (!!!). I've heard from longer serving officers that having the MSC manager really worked well so I'm quite looking forward to seeing the effect this has in our borough (just as long as the right person is appointed to the role!).
  12. WhiteCapSpecial

    MSC Review

    There has been something released now... I know it has been issued to Supervisors - has it been passed down through the ranks yet?
  13. WhiteCapSpecial

    Expenses.

    You should have a "SPOC" on borough who will also need to make sure that your account has been set up correctly. If you still struggle, let me know as I'm the "SPOC" on my Borough and have also been out to surrounding boroughs to instruct officers (along with holding sessions for the the Inspectors and Chief Inspectors).
  14. WhiteCapSpecial

    Calling other Specials by their Ranks

    On our borough, as a Sgt I have always been happy being called by first name, as to me the rank means nothing more than line managing officers appropriately. However, we have always told MSC officers that when their are MSC senior officers then the rank should be addressed (I specifically say no when we're working with regulars!). However, the Inspector and I have been discussing that we will become more strict as to the addressing of ranks within the MSC because when we're out on the street, we're more likely to respond to Sarge, Sir or Guv than our first name because if you shout John or Steve for help, there could be six or seven people turn around, whereas by shouting Sarge or Guv that would be reduced.
  15. WhiteCapSpecial

    DutySheet: how's it going?

    I appreciate that, but because MSCOL was never like that, and was not enforced as rigorously, it is difficult to expect those officers who have been in the role for many many years (and didn't really use MSCOL) to all of a sudden have to start using another new system. I think once there is an integration between DutySheet and CARMs it will weed out a number of those issues. I currently have a number of officers who are frustrated that there is another process of duplication!