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Responding to a Road Traffic Collision off duty

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You're driving off duty on a busy three lane single carriageway when you notice a cyclist lying unconscious in the road after being hit by a driver. You park as soon as possible before you get your mobile phone out and dial 999. Do you ask the operator for the Police or Ambulance Service?

After you hang up do you do anything else like arresting the driver? If so what offences do you arrest for or do you arrest for BOP? Once you have produced your warrant card (if safe and practicable to do so) and informed them that "YOU ARE UNDER ARREST" do you caution the D/P only when in the presence of the escorting officer or do you read the caution immediately after making the arrest?

If you aren't able to park close enough to get involved in the situation do you do anything differently like requesting a different emergency service?

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Call 999, ask for police and ambulance.

Follow 5 building blocks, make the scene as safe as possible, you mentioned it was a busy 3 lane carriageway. Would be putting on hi vis if I had one in my vehicle and considering positioning my vehicle to block the lane of traffic to prevent further injury to the cyclist and also yourself. Once the scene is safe provide first aid to the cyclist until ambulance and police arrive.

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SERIOUSLY..... ?????

Mpotter.. are you a serving special or ooking to join?

If your serving I suggest to get some training in before asking such a question.

I await you replies before responding to the questions you ask

Sent from the dark side of a Tachograph!!!

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What if there were already trained first responders on scene providing first aid to the IP?

Continue to follow the 5 building blocks, try and get witnesses to remain on scene. Reassure driver (Doesn't sound like it was intentional - They may be in shock and therefore need first aid/reassurance aswell) and ultimately wait until police assistance arrives so that on duty colleagues can gather the evidence available and determine if an arrest is necessary. I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions and arresting, especially off duty in this sort of situation.

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SERIOUSLY..... ????? Mpotter.. are you a serving special or ooking to join? If your serving I suggest to get some training in before asking such a question. I await you replies before responding to the questions you ask Sent from the dark side of a Tachograph!!!

No I'm just someone who is curious as to what the Police do.

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MP.. you appear to of quoted my post without actually answering any of the questions.

1. It doesn't matter who you call, they will contact the other(s) as required.

2. Unless the driver is trying to make off from the scene, No.

How do you know they have committed any offences? They could be the innocent party on the collision.

Sent from the dark side of a Tachograph!!!

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MP.. you appear to of quoted my post without actually answering any of the questions. 1. It doesn't matter who you call, they will contact the other(s) as required. 2. Unless the driver is trying to make off from the scene, No. How do you know they have committed any offences? They could be the innocent party on the collision. Sent from the dark side of a Tachograph!!!

1. I'm not a Police officer. 2. I'm not looking to join.

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I would be very cautious of getting involved in anything like this on a three lane carriage way if off duty. You are not in a visible vehicle, you probably won't have things like cones, a radio or a hi-vis jacket either. There are even specific rules around who can be deployed to 'fast roads' even when on at work and on normal duty, which is what a three lane carriageway is likely to be. So you may actually be putting yourself at risk by getting involved and there is the potential for you to cause a secondary accident. You would have to risk assess on a case-by-case basis.

It is very rare for someone to be arrested at an RTC... and that's more than often going to be for a traffic offence. Not sure where you got the BOP idea from?

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I would be very cautious of getting involved in anything like this on a three lane carriage way if off duty. You are not in a visible vehicle, you probably won't have things like cones, a radio or a hi-vis jacket either. There are even specific rules around who can be deployed to 'fast roads' even when on at work and on normal duty, which is what a three lane carriageway is likely to be. So you may actually be putting yourself at risk by getting involved and there is the potential for you to cause a secondary accident. You would have to risk assess on a case-by-case basis.

It is very rare for someone to be arrested at an RTC... and that's more than often going to be for a traffic offence. Not sure where you got the BOP idea from?

The point being the arrest may be neccessary to prevent the driver causing further damage to the causality, what if a simple request to leave the vehicle isn't adhered to?

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Unless any offences are blatantly obvious and serious enough to warrant arrest, all RTCs I have attended, the police on scene very rarely arrest. They get a quick interview in the police car or have to attend a police station for an interview under caution.

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The point being the arrest may be neccessary to prevent the driver causing further damage to the causality, what if a simple request to leave the vehicle isn't adhered to?

That's not BOP.... what peace is being breached?

Unless any offences are blatantly obvious and serious enough to warrant arrest, all RTCs I have attended, the police on scene very rarely arrest. They get a quick interview in the police car or have to attend a police station for an interview under caution.

Ditto.... I have only seen arrests at drink drives and fatals.

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