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Hi there,

I live and work in an area where their are a number of ARMY / RAF bases and have been trying to find this out for some time.

As we have powers in the whole of England and Whales; Does this include ARMY / RAF / etc even though they have their own police or do we just police the service personnel's families?

Many thanks

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Hi there,

I live and work in an area where their are a number of ARMY / RAF bases and have been trying to find this out for some time.

As we have powers in the whole of England and Whales; Does this include ARMY / RAF / etc even though they have their own police or do we just police the service personnel's families?

Many thanks

Although the service police are known as "Military Police" they are in fact soldiers / sailors etc and not police constables as such.

They would deal with minor incidents on camp but the police would be called in if needed for serious matters.

In the UK there is the Ministry of Defence Police seperate from the military police but the local home office constabulary would normally be there first as it would be unlikely there were any MOD units in the local area.

Outside of the UK, the Military Police do have certain authority over spouses and dependants.

The service police would try to keep it "in house" to protect the image of the service but would call in the home office police if it was needed.

There are many forum users who can quote chapter and verse the legislation which covers it all.

Incidently the RAF has its own Fire Brigade composed of service personnel but their job is to protect the aircraft not family accomodation. The local fire brigade have responsibility for that.

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As we have powers in the whole of England and Whales

I like the idea of having powers in relation to whales.

the local home office constabulary would normally be there first as it would be unlikely there were any MOD units in the local area.

Depends on the base surely? There's plenty of places that have a strong MoD Plod presence.

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Yes our powers do apply to service personnel on UK soil though Military Police (e.g. RMP/RAFP) do have additional powers (plus watch how quickly a bunch of scrapping squaddies start behaving themselves once RMP turn up).

However, this doesn't mean that we can rock up to the front gate and expect to be let in to just float around on patrol as they are restricted areas for National Security reasons.

However, if a grade 1 or serious incident (rape, murder etc) comes in on MoD land then we would be permitted access. Anything less and MoD Plod or Military Police would go across from DAWC Melton Mowbray to investigate.

Though from LC it is extremely unlikely that you will end up at any of the military sites as they are covered by LM and LR.

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Depends on the base surely? There's plenty of places that have a strong MoD Plod presence.

And there's plenty that don't!

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Incidently the RAF has its own Fire Brigade composed of service personnel but their job is to protect the aircraft not family accomodation. The local fire brigade have responsibility for that.

Though, as with other Airport Rescue and Firefighting services, they will attend domestic fires and other Fire and Rescue service type jobs on base wherever they are able to. The vast majority of domestic fires on military bases with Airfield Fire fighting presence are put out by the military fire service without local authority fire service knowing about it. Even though almost all military flying in the UK is done during the day (with some airfields almost never doing any night flying) the fire service will often staff up 24/7 in order to provide domestic cover.

RAF Fire Service are even sometimes called upon by Local Authority. I know the crews at RAF Cranwell have been called upon a few times to attend serious RTCs in the immediate vicinity of the base (as they have the NSL, heavily used, A17 running around the airfield) to commence lifesaving efforts whilst the local authority fire and ambulance were still making their way.

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I like the idea of having powers in relation to whales.

"For gods sake Moby Dick, this is the third time we've been called out this week. You know you can't be drunk this close to the beach. It's in your bail conditions"

As mentioned, I know that RMP aren't actually Police Constables, which is also why they had to remove the 'POLICE' from their lightbars.

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I believe my force has the highest concentration of military establishments in the country: I've certainly gone onto a base a couple of times before (though always stopped at the gate-house before to get permission). Quite common for me to see an MOD police car whilst on duty too and not unusual for them to turn up at (non-army) related jobs if in the vicinity to offer assistance.

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There's a huge difference between being able to go on a base without explicit permission to enforce the law, and having the curtesy to speak to the guardhouse and potentially the bases CO. Also, an escort by the gate staff will typically be required to find where you want quickly as bases are rarely logically laid out.

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Hi all,

In my original post it should of read that I live and worked.


I like the idea of having powers in relation to whales.


Apologies for the miss spelling.

would be rather interesting though

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rosco,same with me where I am,Ministry of Defence police are the salt of the earth from my viewpoint. Whenever I did public order patrols on fri/sat night (a few years ago)with the regs in town and another town waiting for the clubs to kick out at two,they were always there,and had driven not inconsiderable miles to be there,they always got stuck in at the drop of a hat and weren't afraid to do so either,and they were all the same,I think I remember about four teams of them at one time or another,I am certain they really enjoyed coming, just as well they did because in the seventies/eighties it was like Dodge city after a cattle drive,very quiet now in comparison,I guess it was a bit different for them and a change from their normal role,they always seemed to have the best four wheel drives to drive about in as well.Rich.ps any MOD officers on here,what are you up to nowadays?

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MoD Plod like to get stuck in, they quite often sit and tug cars where I'm from on a quiet day. From speaking to a couple of them they don't seem to do too much on base stuff, that is left to the service police but that might just be a local arrangement for all I know.

plus watch how quickly a bunch of scrapping squaddies start behaving themselves once RMP turn up.

I wish...

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Outside of the UK, the Military Police do have certain authority over spouses and dependants.

They have full authority over dependants and also over civilian contractors employed by the armed forces. ;)

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I wish...

I agree, however they always give their details to RMP when asked rather than a mouth full of gob once it's finished!

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