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There's not really a specific law as far as I'm aware. It's touched on though in Rule 88 of the highway code, which basically says "do it carefully" biggrin.gif

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As far as rules go it is allowed. However the rider may not over take the lead vehicle on zig zag lines, may not go right of a keep left, must obey traffic law as a car would (other than the overtaking thing). Practicalities, look out for junctions on the right in case someone side swipes you (turning with no mirror check), keeping the speed reasonable, be ready to react, anticipate what is happening, good mirror checks, don't pass if unsafe to do so, for example between two long vehicles, lifesavers if needed.

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Take whatever is written in MCN with a very large pinch of salt (it's like the motorcycle Daily Mail). It looks like that report is a mix'n'match of the proposed EU regs and the new laws coming in for bikes in France.

On filtering, it can actually make your ride safer (suprisingly) than traveling in the line of traffic because as you are always overtaking people seem to notice you more and you have much less chance of being hit from behind. I've been riding bikes for over 20 years and never been told off for it by police, but have seen someone stopped for passing a keep left on the right.

Just be aware that the car you are passing may suddenly pull out of the line of traffic and don't do anything stupid.

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Some of the practicalities of filtering are covered in the Motorcycle Roadcraft Book and the whole book is well worth a read.

As the others have posted you are allowed to filter.

You can use your manoeuvrability and limited space requirements to make progress.

I haven't got the book to hand but from memory.

Take extreme care, keep your speed slow so that you can stop if things change, Always have a space identified that you can rejoin the traffic flow before you move out, use dipped headlights , don't get into conflict with other road users,

There is one more that I can't remember ( can someone help out)

Watch out for pedestrians crossing between vehicles, vehicles doing u-turns, doors opening, debris on the centre of the road, raised reflective studs, vehicles at junctions and other bikes filtering.

If you are a motorcyclist I would recommend a Bike Safe Course and if you are a member of the wider police family these courses I think are free or discounted.

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Friend of mine who is an avid biker proudly states that the UK is the only place filtering is legal, apparently it's illegal in the rest of Europe, but as most things motoring on the continent it gets ignored when people do it!

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Friend of mine who is an avid biker proudly states that the UK is the only place filtering is legal, apparently it's illegal in the rest of Europe, but as most things motoring on the continent it get ignored when people do it!

Its illegal in most parts of the US (California is a notable exception). As far as I know it is legal on most of the continent.

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From what I can dig out on the net (nothing concrete mind) is that it's illegal to filter in France, Germany and Switzerland. However, in places like Italy and Spain its legal.

I think my friends assumption is based on experience rather than knowledge, he's only ridden abroad in France and Switzerland, where as I said its illegal.

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From what I can dig out on the net (nothing concrete mind) is that it's illegal to filter in France, Germany and Switzerland. However, in places like Italy and Spain its legal.

Do you think that given the m/c chaos in these countries a ban would have any bearing?

So what about quad bikes? Not much wider than a BMW with panniers. have seen them filtering carefully without raising too many issues.

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I'm a motorbike rider, and france is trying to push forward their traffic rules.. Which I think are rediculous.

They require everyone to carry a breath testing machine, single use is approx £5 but once they use one, they have 0 left..if pulled over will be fined £20 so you need 2 with your car at all times!?

motorbikers need to wear hi vis vests ALL the time regardless of conditions.

All car drivers need a first aid kid, warning triangle, etc

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onto filtering.

There are no laws specific to it, but do it at your own risk. You can undertake vehicles provided the outside lane is moving slower than the inside lane. Although I dont really filter through unless both lanes are v slow or stopped.

make as much noise as possible as most people don't ever look in mirrors and in slow traffic are on mobile phones, eating, fiddling with bits in the car and can drift over in your path. Max of 10-15mph faster than other traffic I recommend

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If you are a motorcyclist I would recommend a Bike Safe Course and if you are a member of the wider police family these courses I think are free or discounted.

They are very good! The met ones are free for met police staff/officers, but you need to book over the phone to get the discount.

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I'm a motorbike rider, and france is trying to push forward their traffic rules.. Which I think are rediculous.

They require everyone to carry a breath testing machine, single use is approx £5 but once they use one, they have 0 left..if pulled over will be fined £20 so you need 2 with your car at all times!?

motorbikers need to wear hi vis vests ALL the time regardless of conditions.

All car drivers need a first aid kid, warning triangle, etc

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Not convinced about the point of breath-testing requirement but all the others seem quite sensible actually.

Friend of mine who is an avid biker proudly states that the UK is the only place filtering is legal, apparently it's illegal in the rest of Europe, but as most things motoring on the continent it gets ignored when people do it!

That was not the case in Portugal, where I was told that filtering was legal. Moreover, it was common practice, when traffic was stopped on a motorway, for motorbikes to make progress via the hard shoulder. Apart from the risk of debris on a non-running lane, it was actually far safer than filtering, as long as not abused (i.e. by blasting a full speed on hard shoulder when rest of traffic is stopped). (All this from practical experience as a biker over there.)

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I'm a motorbike rider, and france is trying to push forward their traffic rules.. Which I think are rediculous.

They require everyone to carry a breath testing machine, single use is approx £5 but once they use one, they have 0 left..if pulled over will be fined £20 so you need 2 with your car at all times!?

motorbikers need to wear hi vis vests ALL the time regardless of conditions.

All car drivers need a first aid kid, warning triangle, etc

Not convinced about the point of breath-testing requirement but all the others seem quite sensible actually.

Not to take this off track, but I agree with Rosco. The requirement for breath test kits is a bit daft, but the requirement for first aid kits, warning triangles and I believe a hi-viz in the boots of vehicles is a good idea which I'd also support the introduction of in the UK.

I don't even go to France, and all that (bar the breath kit) is in my car anyway.

Oh, and the fine for not having a breath kit in France (from November I believe) will be 11€, which at todays exchange rate would be £9.18 not £20. And if you go to France a lot, it might be worth the investment in an electronic breath test machine. They can be bought for less than £20 and I'd say would be just as accurate as the old crystals in a tube method. And you'd only have to carry 1 thumbsup.gif

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Filtering is fine until it goes wrong and then difficult to justify that the m/c was not at least a contributor to the accident. Apart from that, filtering to the outside of traffic is surely the whole point of an m/c when there is a build up of slow traffic.

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