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  1. Have to agree with Space Marine - the team looked like a bunch of trainees, not the protection team for a high-threat world leader. The guy should have been spotted while he was well out of reach by the spotter/member of the outer team and intercepted – it’s not like he sneaked up on the VIP, he was running down the street in their direction. From the stills (giving a wider field of view), the runner passed a spotter ‘short guy, black hair, dark blue shirt and maroon tie’, who was busy watching people emerge from the building behind Cameron and the two leading protection officers who were busy reaching for the door handle and deciding who would have the important task of opening the car for Cameron, before being tackled by the guy trailing Cameron – everyone (including the three who missed the runner) then converged on the threat – at one point there were 7 on him and at least 5 were his team judging by the lapel signifiers Cameron then took himself to the car while his ‘protection‘ were all distracted. Easy to criticise with hindsight, but this wasn't a small slip-up or someone lunging out of the crowd a few feet from the VIP – this was a total fail by a large portion of his team.
  2. If you can get your PMs working, send whatever you can to me too - the Circuit is very small and those operating at a level he's suggesting are very few in number - if he's real I'll be able to find out, if I don't know the name already, however there are lots out there who claim to be someone they are not, so as well as a name can you give a bit of a description too? As far as his company goes - this sort of protection is rarely outsourced, as posted above they have their own internal units for Royalty Protection - there are few exceptions (I know the guy who worked as 'local liaison' to the official team when the King of Jordan used to fly in) and if they are getting additional help it'll be from someone like Gavin de Becker's company, and there's no way Gavin met you and threatened you
  3. Right to Bear Arms/Self Defence

    I'm not about to read through 27 pages, so forgive me if this has been previously covered. Anyone who's been around here long enough to remember me from long ago knows I like guns, I still shoot Shotguns, have shot all sorts previously and I've said before that while I think the current legislation is about right, it could do with bringing up-to-date to meet the current climate we face in the UK. I work as a CPO, people in danger hire me to protect them because the Police are unable to - with the best will in the world, you are too few in number and too restricted in budget to offer much more than an 'after event' response, and your typical millionaire doesn't want to get mugged, stabbed or kidnapped before you get involved, they'd just like to be able to safely get on with their lives. I'm firearms trained to a high standard (and can carry overseas), have undergone various background checks, hold an SIA CP licence off the back of completing a recognised training course and would be more than happy to undertake any other assessment or check you can think of. As the law stands, I can't even carry an expandable Baton or can of CS in order to protect the life of a VIP. In fact, guys I work with who are ex Armed Police, ex Royalty Protection or Special Forces can't carry anything either. If the threat level on a job was high enough, I'd like to be able to take a trip to my local Police Armory, check-out my Glock and carry during the job, and once complete return it to the Armory for safe keeping until needed again. To be fair, if you know what you're doing and all goes to plan, you'd never need to draw the firearm at all, but there's always a risk which is why you need effective PPE - this is why Royalty Prot officers carry, even though most of them have never had to draw in all their years of service. In regard to the generalisations about us turning in to America, how all those guns make it less safe than if guns were as restricted as they are here, I believe it actually comes down to mindset and vetting. In the USA, guns are seen as a right, everyone can have one, it's easy for any nutter to get one, training isn't mandatory and their whole relationship to firearms is little more than ours is to a bottle of ketchup. If you look at Switzerland, they're not too far behind America in terms of gun ownership yet they have a very low crime rate. That's probably down to everyone doing National Service so are trained to respect firearms, they are properly vetted and licenced and the population have a healthy relationship with guns. If we change the laws towards letting more people own pistols (which is what we're talking about here, anyone can already own a Shotgun or Rifle providing they meet the current requirements) and ensure restrictions are suitable, training is mandatory etc then I don't see a problem. If you're going to commit an armed crime, you use what's available to you. In the UK we have a knife problem as they are easy to lay your hands on. If we make firearms easier to get hold of, will we move to more criminals armed with guns? Doubt it, they can already get them if they want one, it's just the victim isn't currently in a position to defend themselves with equal force. Even if we don't go as far as changing firearms legislation as discussed in this thread, letting people carry CS to defend themselves, having had to undergo vetting, and annual licence and maybe some training first, seems a reasonable change to make.
  4. Close Protection

    Morning, sorry I'm coming a bit late to this - can't believe it's been a year since I was last on here. Anyway have a read of my blog for some CP related info, and to run through your post: "Many ex servicemen go into close protection when they come out of the Army as they have the necessary skills" No they aren't and no they don't - it seems most Army resettlement officers point guys at CP as it's an easy sell, most CP training companies accept ELCs and most guys leaving don't have a clue what to do, so they do a CP course and never find work, having wasted their time and credits. There are very few skills a soldier has that transfer to CP. They have spent years learning to work as a team, follow orders and stand their ground in the face of the enemy, which is polar-opposite to CP where you're on your own, thinking on your feet and trying to get the VIP off the X and away to safety. "I feel that Police Officers and specials (especially firearms/surveillance/intel) hold the necessary skills and training to be a Close Protection Operative so was wondering what you guys thought? Do you think ex police officers and specials would consider this role after working for the Police?" Police skills such as planning, observation, communication skills and de-escalating situations are very much needed in CP, so you're right there. Counter Surveillance is also a big part of the role as there's always an element of hostile surveillance ahead of any attack, so being able to spot it and deal accordingly can mean the attack never happens. Firearms isn't really a requirement - you won't be armed in the UK anyway, most European countries won't let you either and to be fair if you know what you're doing you'll never need to draw your Glock anyway - Geoff Padgham was one of my instructors and never drew his weapon in 22 years of protecting Prince Andrew and others. "As most of you probably know the Close Protection world can offer exciting opportunities in the UK and also overseas paying very good money and a Close Protection Operative working overseas can often earn up to £100,000 per year." Actually CP is mainly boring, it's more like being on scene guard duty most of the time and you don't actually want it to go exciting as it means you screwed up and people are in danger. Overseas money is pretty rubbish - the 'Blackwater' jobs in Iraq are long gone, those guys earned a fortune guarding Bremer but as more and more guys have become available and spending is being more closely watched, you'll be looking at long hours, poor rotation and getting shot at for less than half your quoted figure. You also need to remember most CP work is sporadic - you'll do one job for a few weeks, earn loads then have nothing for a month, maybe longer, so money needs to be carefully budgeted and overall you might end up seeing £30k over 12 months. Right off to see who's still posting on here I know
  5. Reinvest in a railway system that actually works properly and take a load of the trucks off the roads
  6. Taser resistant garments

    Those were the slash-proof stuff for kids If I recall correctly (and I usually do) it was one of the many early posts about routine arming of officers with Taser, someone posted that Tasers don't always work on targets and posted examples from the US and I replied that in addition there are things you can do to make you Taser-proof anyway and linked to this stuff.
  7. Taser resistant garments

    I posted about the stuff on here back in 2010 and knew about it a year before that, so it's hardly new and still isn't integrated into normal clothing or is easy to get hold of
  8. First Fully 3D Printed Gun Fired

    Correct but that caveat is there to allow for small-scale custom production of ceramic knives - after all they have a legitimate purpose so shouldn't be banned - in practice almost all commercial knives are visible to xray (presume manufacturers don't want the bad publicity that will surround someone using their product for a serious crime etc) There also ceramic/plastic knives legitimately designed for EOD use and I guess this stops anyone getting hold of one for a crime but saying it's to cut up their fish so is a legal domestic knife - you need special authority for this type of knife and the above ensures it falls outside this legislation.
  9. How Fail On Sunday 'printed' first plastic gun

    Bomb, collision, airframe failure etc Plenty of examples of planes landing safely with big bits of them missing http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/02/us-plane-landing-idUSTRE73107C20110402 http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/asia-pacific/hole-in-fuselage-forces-qantas-plane-to-land
  10. First Fully 3D Printed Gun Fired

    Section 141 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 - not sure if it was an amendment or in there from the start See item P page 4 https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/186911/Knives_and_offensive_weapons_information_GDS_FAQ.pdf See also https://www.gov.uk/import-controls-on-offensive-weapons
  11. First Fully 3D Printed Gun Fired

    Ceramic knives that are not detectable (either from metal in the mix or a strip of foil under the handle) are classed as 'stealth knives' and are specifically mentioned in legislation as being a made Offensive weapon and illegal to import into the UK - in case anyone's interested
  12. First Fully 3D Printed Gun Fired

    The other use nobody has picked up on yet is their ability to create a really sharp knife that can't be picked up by metal detectors - going to be a much more effective weapon than one of the guns - maybe they'll run that story next once this one dies away a bit (and obviously the knives will be an expensive way to create the type of weapon we can all make in our garage for a few quid, but why let that get in the way of a good story?)
  13. First Fully 3D Printed Gun Fired

    More sensationalist rubbish. While it's been proven possible to construct a gun like this, why would you? Printers cost a few thousand pounds, while you can get all you need from B&Q for about £50 and buy one of many detailed books on the subject for about £15-£30 http://www.paladin-press.com/product/Homemade_Guns_and_Homemade_Ammo As previously posted, obtaining the ammo is always the biggest issue. Once you've built your gun, they're not in the least bit accurate and you're more likely to blow your hand off as shoot your target - sells papers though and gives the nutty politicians something else to worry about.
  14. Nope, don't have any connection at all, just know their rep - Private Sector is a fairly small pond and the cream always rises to the top as they say
  15. Yes, I've heard of them - very professional outfit, well trained and skilled teams - a bit like the companies G4S took over and turned to ****