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  1. Work Experience

    I worked as police staff in an East London station many years ago and we had people on work experience. You also have people working as volunteers. What kind of work did you have in mind?
  2. MSC and the New Policing Model

    It's not written down and never will be because of the volunteer nature of the MSC but the regular service has always tried to use specials to paper over the cracks caused by financial cuts to policing levels. I have a friend in a neighbouring police force who flat our refuses to work bank holidays if a regular officer has been refused overtime. He feels the Special Constabulary is supernumerary to staffing levels and should not be included in financial decisions. It's a fair point. Business Model is a term I find inappropriate to policing. It is not a business but the bean counters have been treating it as one for many years with disastrous results. MSC sergeants and MSC Inspectors spend far too much time chasing up people not doing their hours. The example given by kcl16 of an officer invisible for seven months is not uncommon but the MSC needs to kick these people out long before it gets to that stage. MSC supervisors didn't sign up for this and want to do some policing not chasing people who are only in it for the warrant card and free travel on the tube. The Police is a 24/7 organisation and any excuse for not attending (unless of illness or family crisis) is unacceptable. I've had to deal with (and sometimes discharge) under performing officers who say "But I am a Volunteer!" My response was Yes you are but you are not volunteering are you so start turning up or stop wasting everyone's time including your own.
  3. Calling other Specials by their Ranks

    When I first joined the specials our trainers were a regular sergeant, a regular PC and a DC. They were very relaxed and invited us to address them by their first names (even the regular sergeant). At that time the special Constabulary supervisors weren't called Special Sergeants or Special Inspectors. Different police forces called them different things (Divisional Officers, Sub Divisional Officers, Section Officers and a variety of other titles). It was accepted that Specials addressed each other by their first names regardless of the position they held. My own view was that if my regular trainers were ok with first names then I wasn't going to call another special "Sir". The Special Constabulary later adopted the rank titles of the regulars (Sgt, Insp) and it amused me that some of these people thought they actually were Inspectors. I am very much against calling Specials sergeant or sir. They haven't completed the training or exams the regulars have. I totally agree that regulars should be addressed by rank. I would never call a regular sergeant by his first name (even when I became a special sergeant) unless they invited to do so and even then I would still say "Sarge " if there were other officers or PCSOs present. But addressing other specials by rank? I don't think so.
  4. Level 2 PO Rank Sliders

    It is the case in the Met that Level 2 rank slides should only be used by Level 2 trained officers. It is also a fact that this rule is habitually ignored by many officers who feel that Level 2 rank slides are much better than those silly metal shoulder/ collar numbers which are always falling off. I feel the T/Sgt over reacted but if he was to make it official the Met would support him because "Rules Is Rules" There are so many issues with the Met that I despair this is considered so important by some MSC supervisors. I don't understand why it is a problem wearing these slides so long as you are clearly identified.
  5. L3 Driving Ban to be lifted...?

    This is true. Many regular officers don't want driving courses at all. They don't want the responsibility or grief in dealing with pursuits that might go wrong. There is a perception that the Met won't look after you.
  6. MSC and the New Policing Model

    Emails are being sent to former MSC asking them to consider rejoining. Things must be getting bad. It needs to be addressed why they quit in the first place.
  7. RMP military arrest

    Times move on unfortunately. But even when I was a squaddie in the 80s there was a certain disruptive element that wasn't scared of RMP or the RSM. The Army was reluctant to kick out serving soldiers and they were always given a last chance. Nowadays you get shown the door to civvy street in an instant and you can now actually submit a formal grivance against a senior officer just like in a civilian workplace. The world's gone mad. But in answer to the original question, a deserter / AWOL soldier has committed an offence so police can step in to assist.
  8. You will have put your driver number on your application form so just tell them you can't remember exact dates. They can look up the exact details easily enough.
  9. PoliceMutual Car Insurance.... mhm

    Like any insurance company you only know how good or bad they are when you need to make a claim. I've been with Police Mutual for a few years and have had no problems with them (though I haven't needed to make a claim yet) They do not charge you when you need to make changes such as address changes, job changes etc. I recently added business use to my policy and they didn't charge extra for it as I've been with them a few years now.
  10. Sickness/ Absence Record for Applicants

    I wasn't entirely sure if was also applicable to the police but it makes sense.
  11. SIA badge rules/guidelines

    The advice given so far is correct. SIA Security Staff must by law display their SIA licences when working. Certain exemptions are permitted such as plain clothes store detectives. SIA licenced security staff must give their details to police or an SIA official if requested to do so. They DO NOT have to give their details to members of the public so if a disgruntled customer has an issue with the door staff in a pub they have no right to demand the door staff details. If they are too drunk to notice the SIA badge number displayed by security staff then that's their problem and there is no legal requirement to hand them a pen to write it down. Any complaints against security staff should be submitted to the venue unless there is an allegation of criminal behaviour in which case police may be called upon. Security staff are not always blameless but the general rule of thumb is that security staff are sober and customers are drunk so go with what you find on scene.
  12. Sickness/ Absence Record for Applicants

    My understanding is that the Equality Act forbids attendance from being taken in to account when applying but that recruiters are permitted to take it into account if they decide to give you the job in order to ascertain whether you are fit to do the job.
  13. MSC Expenses

    Although it would be good practice to provide receipts for expenses there is no requirement that Metropolitan Police Specials should actually do so. Maybe it would be better if there was because a Special Inspector recently went through hell when he was prosecuted for fiddling his expenses and found not guilty. The judge was VERY critical of the current claims procedure and hopefully the Met will sort it out.
  14. CKP worthwhile?

    And you don't need CKP if you are a serving IPS Special Constable. It was more towards external candidates with no previous experience. CKP was brought in by the government and initially trialled with the Met. The plan was to extend in nationally throughout England and Wales but I'm not sure how many forces adopted it. I was under the impression they all had but recruitment goalposts in the police never remain still for long.