[Gallifrey]

Here is a link to the royal parks constabulary home page

Royal Parks Police

They are all trained to home office standards usually at Ashford and are responsible for all royal parks within the greater london area

They have full police powers in their area of jurisdiction

This post has been edited by DL: 09 April 2004 - 08:26 PM

[biker.r1]

DL, the link doesn't seem to work...

I think it should be

Royal Parks Constabulary


R1.

[Gallifrey]

cheers have edited it seems to be working now

[Metplod]

Now tacked on to the Met until it is fully absorbed into the Met

[Griff]

The Royal Parks Police is now in a co-policing agreement with the Metropolitan Police and the new OCU started at the start of April.

Mixed patrols (i.e. RPC & MPS) are now regular!

Shoulder numbers and PNC Identifier have already changed over to the MPS.

[Minerva]

Now that RPC is becomeing a MPS OCU what's stopping all the RPC officers getting their shiney new Met warrant cards and transfering off to other areas in the Met?

[Spartacus]

I believe assimilation is complete. They have their own OCU now.. but they are now.. part of the collective. They have Met warrant cards and can go to other areas of the met.

This post has been edited by Bert: 16 April 2004 - 04:49 PM

[Metplod]

Razer, on Apr 16 2004, 04:07 PM, said:

Now that RPC is becomeing a MPS OCU what's stopping all the RPC officers getting their shiney new Met warrant cards and transfering off to other areas in the Met?

Training will be stopping them. They've had years of cherry picking their work and dealing with very low level incidents. Now they are full home office PC's they're gonna be busy dealing with all incidents in the park, rather than handing it onto the Met when suits.

They've done quite well out of really what with a substantial pay rise and access to better training and the resources of the met.

[Gallifrey]

Metplod, on Apr 16 2004, 06:20 PM, said:

Training will be stopping them. They've had years of cherry picking their work and dealing with very low level incidents. Now they are full home office PC's they're gonna be busy dealing with all incidents in the park, rather than handing it onto the Met when suits.

Sorry don't agree personally I think thats rather an unfair view of the royal parks constabulary. We are all police officers, we all face the same dangers whilst on duty and they faced the same dangers as any Pc from any force working in london.They had minimal back up and were not allowed to carry CS. when I worked in london royal parks officers got me out of the proverbial on several occasions, even when they were technically outside their juridiction. I never saw them shirk or cherry pick jobs.

Every royal parks officer I have met has been a credit to the service and I have seen them deal professionally with may incidents way beyond the low level jobs as you describe it.

They are home office trained, the old style training for which they are still unfairly berated went out in 1983 and since then their recruits have attended Home Office Training Schools.

They also have a number of drivers trained to nationally recognised standards as well as an excellent dogs section.

The met will benefit greatly from the officers who have transferred over and these officers who in my persoonal opinion were unfairly rewarded in the past will finally get the levels of pay and pensions which they deserve

[Black Rat]

Do they as a result of the merger get the same salary as a MET officer then ?

[Gallifrey]

Apparently so or so my friend tells me, can't be bad

[Minerva]

What's the policy on officer's who've retired from HO forces (for whatever reason) and gone to RPC?

[Metplod]

Gallifrey, on Apr 16 2004, 11:05 PM, said:

Every royal parks officer I have met has been a credit to the service and I have seen them deal professionally with may incidents way beyond the low level jobs as you describe it.

Well we've both had different experiences of them, yours have been good mine haven't.

[Metplod]

Razer, on Apr 17 2004, 11:17 AM, said:

What's the policy on officer's who've retired from HO forces (for whatever reason) and gone to RPC?

If they've retired then they can't come across to the MPS.

[Minerva]

Metplod, on Apr 17 2004, 07:48 PM, said:

If they've retired then they can't come across to the MPS.

Really, are you 100% sure on that? What about forces other than the Met?

[daveywavey36]

I wouldn't think the MET could refuse to accept any officer of the RPC just because they left/retired from another force and joined RPC - if they did, that would be an employment law minefield.

I would think like any merger/take-over staff would be optioned for being "TUPE'd" over or offered a redundancy package with severance.

What do you think?

[Metplod]

daveywavey36, on Apr 18 2004, 09:43 AM, said:

I wouldn't think the MET could refuse to accept any officer of the RPC just because they left/retired from another force and joined RPC - if they did, that would be an employment law minefield.

I would think like any merger/take-over staff would be optioned for being "TUPE'd" over or offered a redundancy package with severance.

What do you think?

There are officers, albeit a small number who have retired from the Met and then joined up with the RPC. They will not be coming across to the Met. Remember some of these people will be over the retirement age anyway.

I don't know what the terminating arrangements are, but I do know that not all RPC are coming across.

[JS]

I was at Twickenham yesterday, for a rugby match and I saw an RPC carrier with POLSA officers. I thought: what are they doing here, surely they are out of their jurisdiction .... but it turns out that if they are now Met officers then their resources will be most useful.

James

[Glos Special]

Metplod, just out of interest mate what sort of bad experiences have you had with the RPC?
(I'm not meaning to start any sort of slagging match between people!)

[panda plodder]

A bit of a tricky one this, after all TUPE rules should apply (That means Transfer of Undertakings Protected Employment), Hertfordshire, Surrey and Essex had to go through this when the Metropolitan Police District shrank, giving back those bits of other Forces County that it had previously Policed.

Met Officers for example @ Borehamwood or Potters Bar had a choice of going to a new MET area or staying put and become part of HertsPol, those that did stay had their pay and conditions protected by law so they were actually earning more than other HertsPol PC's.

Not sure how this works out with ex MET officers who have retired and gone to RPC, I did hear they were being offered PCSO posts?

I acn remember sending off for a application pack for the RPC back in 1990(?) they were only paid £11,000 pa so I never gave serious consideration.

[Major]

Whats the entrance etc like for the RPC ?

[Gallifrey]

Sorry about this mate unfortunately the RPC are now sort of merged with the met so are not recruiting any more officers ever

Have you though about the MOD police?