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#1 jazz_fan9

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 05:42 PM

Can someone explain how to identify between members of the Ambulance service? Does it vary between ambulance services or is there a national standard?

At the moment I'm thinking NHS, but if someone wanted to add details for St John then I'm sure it wouldn't be wasted.

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 11:07 PM

Can someone explain how to identify between members of the Ambulance service? Does it vary between ambulance services or is there a national standard?

At the moment I'm thinking NHS, but if someone wanted to add details for St John then I'm sure it wouldn't be wasted.



how do you mean identify, if you mean between paramedic and technician then it is usually written somewhere on their uniform except in wales where it is colour coded red for paramedic and blue for technician in some services you cant tell unless you ask

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 11:19 PM

how do you mean identify, if you mean between paramedic and technician then it is usually written somewhere on their uniform except in wales where it is colour coded red for paramedic and blue for technician in some services you cant tell unless you ask


LAS for example, the only difference is written on the epaulettes.

Paramedic
Emergency Medical Technician
London Ambulance Service
Patient Transport Service - Blue coloured epaulette.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 07:20 AM

LAS also have Emergency Dispatch Operator - with numbers; and the number I am lead to believe is the grade of the operator

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 09:42 AM

LAS for example, the only difference is written on the epaulettes.

Paramedic
Emergency Medical Technician
London Ambulance Service
Patient Transport Service - Blue coloured epaulette.


I've seen a Paramedic in LAS with a Pip on his epps.

#6 E29NP

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 10:47 AM

I've seen a Paramedic in LAS with a Pip on his epps.


Yes true, but that's a rank thing.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 10:58 AM

Yes true, but that's a rank thing.


Right, so if I can either clarify the OP or make my own question we see these, and does anyone know the corresponding ranks?
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I've only seen the ones at the bottom, but also with single numbers, I don't think they are for identification (unless it's a region or shift thing) but rather looks like a ranking thing.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 11:26 AM

From another forum:

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 12:19 PM

I didn't know LAS had a dress uniform, any pics?

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 08:11 PM

how do you mean identify, if you mean between paramedic and technician then it is usually written somewhere on their uniform except in wales where it is colour coded red for paramedic and blue for technician in some services you cant tell unless you ask


As it happens it is my contact with WAS which prompted the question, so thanks for the reply. It's also interesting that it's not standard nationally.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 10:06 PM

Slightly off topic but something I've been wondering for a while. Recently I've seen more and more "emergency care practitioners" at jobs, always in a rapid response vehicle. Where do they sit with regards to level of training, below technician? above paramedic? between technician and paramedic?

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 06:57 PM

I'm not sure if this answers your question, it's in corporate-speak:

The role of emergency care practitioners (ECPs) utilises the skills of paramedics and other professionals (such as specialist nurses with additional skills) to support the first contact needs of patients in unscheduled care. They are employed primarily by ambulance service trusts



#13 ninetyone

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 07:36 PM

AFAIK they are slightly above paramedics, but paramedics are pretty skilled anyway.

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 07:48 PM

From another forum:


Also from the same forum, a very helpful diagram:

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 07:56 PM

I thought the pip thing was a training officer/station officer thing? thats how it's always been explained to me anyway.

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 05:39 AM

NHS service wise there is no standard answer

BRC the official ine is still they have no rank system and any markings are role specific for that event ...


SJA uses a system based on military ranks and the rank worn has no direct correlation with clinical role , however Epaulettes with a coloured rather than black background are used within SJA to identify Doctors (red) , Nurses(Grey) and Paramedics (green)

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 02:38 PM

I didn't know LAS had a dress uniform, any pics?


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Posted 10 September 2009 - 03:05 PM

Also from the same forum, a very helpful diagram:

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I had no idea there were so many ranks within the ambulance service.
Thank you for the information.

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:00 PM

Most ranking have changed now and ranks are slightly different. I can only comment for East of England Ambulance as thats my trust but im pretty sure other trusts are the same.
You have EMT and Paramedic Epps/
2 pips= Paramedic Supervisor ("Old" Team Leaders)
3 pips= DOM/COM (Duty Operational Manager/ Clinical Operational Manager)
1 Crown= AGM (Assistant General Manager)
1 Crown + Pip= GM (General Manager)
Then you have your strategic managers and the pips and wreaths then tally up with the LAS picture.

Also LAS do show their EMT's with a number which as the link above shows the level of EMT.

hope that helps a bit

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 12:22 AM

SJA uses a system based on military ranks and the rank worn has no direct correlation with clinical role , however Epaulettes with a coloured rather than black background are used within SJA to identify Doctors (red) , Nurses(Grey) and Paramedics (green)

isn't there blue for forward incident teams (FIT team), also you can get orange ones though I don't know what they do, never seen anyone wear them in person.

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 08:20 AM

FIT normally wear half blue hi-vises. Blue is used by Police staff and PCSOs and a load of different colours are used in public order or major incidents.

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 08:51 AM

isn't there blue for forward incident teams (FIT team), also you can get orange ones though I don't know what they do, never seen anyone wear them in person.


the simple answer to that is NO , anyone wearing them does so unofficially there are 4 official colours for Epaulettes black, grey, red and green ...

what you have to remember in the case of a certain District's FIT is that they had become the praetorian guard of a previous commissioner , and things will change.

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 03:26 PM

if I may answer on behalf of the Emergency Care Practitioner, my friend is one (He is also a SC) Usually they will have three pips or Emergency Care Practitioner on the epaulettes, usually they are Nurse's who work for The Ambulance Service.

#24 ninetyone

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 04:08 PM

FIT normally wear half blue hi-vises. Blue is used by Police staff and PCSOs and a load of different colours are used in public order or major incidents.


I nearly replied in that vein, but he wasn't referring to Forward Intelligence Teams :D

#25 GodAtum

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 04:26 PM

I found a photo of an Emergency Care Practitioner:

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