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[DanielS]

That policy I read has only come out in the last couple of weeks.

[Trojan631]

That policy I read has only come out in the last couple of weeks.

I see

[zippyRN]

driving policy changed earlier this year

Ambulance crew training policy and cliarification of expected skills was published this month

trojan, you may think that but I couldn't possibly comment !

[Trojan631]

driving policy changed earlier this year

Ambulance crew training policy and cliarification of expected skills was published this month

trojan, you may think that but I couldn't possibly comment !

Maybe you could confirm or deny in a pm?

[ojm947]

How often do St john ambulance emergency responders help out the local ambulance service, such as times when they are short staffed???

Edited by ojm947, 19 August 2009 - 11:30 PM.

[DanielS]

Depends, some counties dont have them, some do.

I'm sure you can commit the amount of hours you want to. You could be sat a home vegged in front of the tv all the time what your on call or you could be quite busy

[Trojan631]

driving policy changed earlier this year

Ambulance crew training policy and cliarification of expected skills was published this month

trojan, you may think that but I couldn't possibly comment !

Quick one just a what if?

Say some one joined SJA has passed their test in the last few months say 6 but has either ROSPA gold/silver or IAM would they have a chance in hell of driving an SJA vehicle?

C

[DanielS]

Weird that you are not already when i was in the running for taking over a cadet unit i was told it came with with a grade 5 rank (if thats the one above the lowest?)

I doubt SJA will get rid TBH as their are far to many TIGERs that would not be happy give said rank up!

It comes with grade 6 officer status, I did ask in my own sneaky way, when I was going to be promoted to my Area Staff Officer for Cadets and she didnt know. To be honest am not bothered if I get bird poop (it is a stronger word as you properly know put am not allowed to swear on the forum )on my rank slide, I just want to authorty which comes with it allows me to do my job properly to get things for the unit to run properly.

Though officer status would be nice, am even thinking off going for divisional officer (cadets) (grade 5 status) but am not sure yet.

I dont think they will get rid of ranks, I think some people are too senior for the own head and think they are the best thing since slice bread. I know a few, even one doesnt like me (dont know how that could happen ) and she doesnt like one of my SJA friends because he stood up for me. The thing is I had even done anything wrong. Power has gone to someones head.

[zippyRN]

Quick one just a what if?

Say some one joined SJA has passed their test in the last few months say 6 but has either ROSPA gold/silver or IAM would they have a chance in hell of driving an SJA vehicle?

C

have they held a licence for the appropriate class of vehicle for 2 years ?

is there an operational requirement for them to drive ?

are they able to satisfactorily complete the appropriate driving assessments (a-b, operational none- emergency, emergency , emergency +s.19)?

if you cannot fulfill all three criteria then no there isn't just as it;s the case in many cotrporate and other emergency services settings ...

[Trojan631]

have they held a licence for the appropriate class of vehicle for 2 years ?

is there an operational requirement for them to drive ?

are they able to satisfactorily complete the appropriate driving assessments (a-b, operational none- emergency, emergency , emergency +s.19)?

if you cannot fulfill all three criteria then no there isn't just as it;s the case in many cotrporate and other emergency services settings ...

Ok for this example:

No
Yes
Yes

Would it chance if you had a years driving experience and ROSPA Gold?

By the way this is hypothetical.

[DanielS]

Its like my unit urgently needs drivers, and am the only one who is active enough or can drive.

But I have only got about 10 months experience, that said I have my institute of advanced motorist test soon, so that must show that am a somewhat good driver.

[Trojan631]

Its like my unit urgently needs drivers, and am the only one who is active enough or can drive.

But I have only got about 10 months experience, that said I have my institute of advanced motorist test soon, so that must show that am a somewhat good driver.

Well quite!

Who would be the better driver someone with two years driving or some one with someone with a year and IAM or ROSPA Gold/Silver (which by the way entitals you to become a ROSPA trainer for your local group.

The army cadet force allows you to drive as long as you have never been done for drink driving or been disqualified.

[zippyRN]

Well quite!

Who would be the better driver someone with two years driving or some one with someone with a year and IAM or ROSPA Gold/Silver (which by the way entitals you to become a ROSPA trainer for your local group.

The army cadet force allows you to drive as long as you have never been done for drink driving or been disqualified.

given that IAM / RoSPA @silver is becoming the basic driver standard for SJA having it will not necessarily speed anything up...

this is also in the environment of considering that formalised response driver training has been mandated for those who require it as part of the driving policy

as I understand it the Cadet forces work to the FMT600 or appropriate tri-service equivalents ...

[HampshireSam]

Do you learn CPR using the 'Nellie the Elephant' song? (Serious Q)

I did not good.

[DanielS]

Why am I so good at avoiding officers meetings, I always find something else to do instead of turning up to them. Never been to one yet.

[Alexis050891]

Can I ask a question? Which SJA areas have response motorbikes? Bluelights etc etc.

[DanielS]

Think its only in London, they are very new things, they get to try everything first.

Far as I know they have 6 response motorbikes

[zippyRN]

Can I ask a question? Which SJA areas have response motorbikes? Bluelights etc etc.

London District as other areas have relatively little need so borrow LDs Bikes and riders or blag demonstrators and use their own response drivers who also hold IAM/ Rospa for bikes ...

to be honest i doubt other places will be getting them , reflecting the absence of Ambulance service motorcycle responders else where - for a lot of work cycle responders or a 4 wheel RRV is more suitable

Edited by zippyRN, 10 September 2009 - 05:34 AM.

[DanielS]

Some counties need to spend the money on First Aid Units and Ambulances before they think about motorbikes.

Think everyone who drives SJA vehicles need to be ROSPA trained now, or is it just the ones who drive the ambulances with customers/victims/injured people in them?

[Corbs]

At BikeSafe there was an SJA motorbike.

[jaysec]

I knew one of the better advisors for the St John Ambulance topic would be you Dan.

How are SJA crew decided for assisting at aid events. Thinking along the lines of events such as carnivals.
Just curious as i was attending the Notting hill Carnival at the end of august and saw countless SJA crew walking about, and in static positions with ambulances.

And the odd few paramedics on bicycles pedaling about but thats non related.

[DanielS]

Apparently there was 600 volunteer first aiders over the weekend(don't know how they did that we struggle to get 20 first aiders sometimes)

Basically, the event manager of Notting Hill Carnival would ring up the local county (being London) say they are interested in us covering the event and it would be risk assessed and everything. Properly also if we have covered the event before they would look at what resources went last time and the Duty Officers report to make sure the right cover is given.

Then its put onto the duty system and sent to the local division, being Notting Hill Carnival it properly would of been sent to all units within the london area, also I think it went onto our members website as well (because it was such a big event) so any member in the Priory of England can see it and if they are interested in covering it then they tell there Divisional Duty Co-ordinator who will book them on it.

The cycle responders could of been SJA as well.

I love doing major events, get to meet tons of people who do the same job as you, but you have never met before. (some good looking ones as well )

[Robochop]

I have my 2 day induction course tomorrow and sunday! Then, as I am qualified for FA already, I have an assessment on the 24th September ...
Just thought I'd let you guys know!

[DanielS]

2 day induction?

Mine was only half a day, then they shoved manual handling on it.

[Robochop]

2 day induction?

Mine was only half a day, then they shoved manual handling on it.

Yeah. It was originally 3 days, but they've crammed it into 2 ... 09:00 - 18:00