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[SC2PC]

Its a long story but I will keep it brief, some guy I started to work with, turned out to be not a good guy and was a lier and made me lose out on money, I wanted nothing more to do with him. So I broke ties with him. He says I owe him money which I dont, in fact I lost money because of him, so he is now trying to take me to court, with a made up sum, but he knows he will lose because its a lie. Today I got a call from his friend who is a really evil piece of work, known to the police as well, he said if I dont call his friend and pay the money he will make my life very uncomfortable, and I know he means that is it for me. What should I do? I have not finished training yet so I am not a Police Officer yet, If I ring the police there is nothing they can do untill he comes to kill me or hurt me, and it will just make him angry. I am worried because my girlfriend is having my baby and I am trying to make a good life for us and he is trying to ruin it for me and her. He even put her name as well on the claim form even though she never had anything to do with him.

[Angua]

Oh, SC2PC!

There are some people out there who are really not very nice (only way I could say that without the wrath of the rude-word-mods). I can't really say much as there isn't too much detail in your post. How much is the money and what are they claiming it for? Do they know you're associated with the police (about to be a special)? How do you know these people? I can understand if you don't want to give details. What a nightmare .

[Markdn]

Hi SC2PC,
First of all try to remain calm, this is a very scary situation to be in but with the right actions hopefully it can be resolved. Start by keeping a log of all contact with these persons, including what is said, times, dates, method of communication.

I would advise you to contact the police via their non emergency number, of course if there is immediate danger then 999! Once contact has been etablished they can advise you more. CAB might also be able to help you with the claim that the person(s) is trying to pursue.

At the very least Harassment - take a look at the act for more info - http://www.opsi.gov....a_19970040_en_1

Hope this helps, remember try and keep calm

Edited by Markdn, 08 May 2009 - 10:51 AM.

[WT]

I'd suggest the harassment route.


He'll probably get a warning and if he persists he'll get nicked.

[Hotlush]

Intimidation in civil proceedings is an offence under the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001.

[SC2PC]

I did not know how bad he was bad, till he brought some hair straightners, from one of his traders, I sold some turned out to be fake, so I refunded the people there money because I did not know and I felt so bad for them told him they were fake gave them back to him and said you need to return them to your trader because either he is selling fakes or this batch he got is fake and he was unaware. All in all a very stupid afair and its my fault for thinking all people have good in them, it has ruined my trust of people because I will not let him ruin my police career. Yes he knows I am a special which upset him, which in turned confirmed to me he is not a good person. I thought he was a good guy because I worked for a broker in Cornwall a year back and he was a client he offered me a really good IT job if I moved near him, which I did and it never happened each month kept telling me next month. Should I move home just in case this guy turns up with friends or what?


Also while working for him for free it seems!! I should have noticed when he kept telling me about people he was sueing for money. I think this is why he is an old man with no friends you know.

He is trying to clam 2.5K even though he paid 550 for the hair straightners kept most of them and the ones I had gave back when I found out they were wrong. I have had no contact with him since joining the specials and thats the way I like it. If I was a full police officer I would have no remorse in arresting him.

Edited by SC2PC, 08 May 2009 - 11:46 AM.

[Giraffe]

Intimidation in civil proceedings is an offence under the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001.

That's an interesting bit of law I was unaware of! Thanks!

I did not know how bad he was bad, till he brought some hair straighteners, from one of his traders, I sold some turned out to be fake, so I refunded the people there money because I did not know and I felt so bad for them told him they were fake gave them back to him and said you need to return them to your trader because either he is selling fakes or this batch he got is fake and he was unaware. All in all a very stupid afair and its my fault for thinking all people have good in them, it has ruined my trust of people because I will not let him ruin my police career. Yes he knows I am a special which upset him, which in turned confirmed to me he is not a good person. I thought he was a good guy because I worked for a broker in Cornwall a year back and he was a client he offered me a really good IT job if I moved near him, which I did and it never happened each month kept telling me next month. Should I move home just in case this guy turns up with friends or what?


Also while working for him for free it seems!! I should have noticed when he kept telling me about people he was sueing for money. I think this is why he is an old man with no friends you know.

He is trying to clam 2.5K even though he paid 550 for the hair straightners kept most of them and the ones I had gave back when I found out they were wrong. I have had no contact with him since joining the specials and thats the way I like it. If I was a full police officer I would have no remorse in arresting him.

No offence, but now that you're joining the specials, and for your own benefit as well, it's important for you to pay attention to the type of company your keeping now. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that a mate handing you some hair straighteners to flog online could be dodgy.

Get the police involved now that threats have been made. Inform your trainer/Sergeant of EVERYTHING - it's far better you do this now than they find out and you get booted out of the police before your career has even started for something that sounds rather trivial in the first place. The fact that you refunded the money shows you are honest (assuming there is no more to this) and you should be fine. Let us know how you get on.

[SC2PC]

I am honest and as soon as I knew something was up, I stopped all contact with him and let him know I want nothing to do with him, yeh you could say I was stupid and I should be more careful with who I hang around with. I am not that kind of guy all my friends are good people who have never been in trouble just like myself. I wont let some man who has ruined his own life ruin mine as well. I have contacted the police who said there is nothing they can do because nothing has come from it yet. So I will wait and see I will continue to live my life normally. Also if I was a bad person I would not admit on here what has been happening if I truely believe I was at fault here.

Also I had no reason to think the hair straightners were wrong his company is registered and he has a VAT number and even paid VAT on the items coming into the UK from his trader, everything was done above aboard so thats why I had no reason to think anything bad, I am new to business you see and I am thinking I am bad at it so I think you can say I wont be forming any companies or doing anything of that nature ever again.

Edited by SC2PC, 08 May 2009 - 12:28 PM.

[Giraffe]

I'm not saying you're a bad person. As per my reply to your PM it sounds like you've made a bad judgment. As long as you learn from it then you should be fine. Also keep the police informed if you hear from either of these idiots again - if they are threatening you then it is a police matter.

If they sue you then all I can suggest is consult a solicitor.

Edited by Giraffe, 08 May 2009 - 12:41 PM.

[RomeoEcho]

H/A/D in my opinion.

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[SC2PC]

I dont mind if they try to sue me, because they have nothing to sue me for, its all a lie, even my letting agency is scared and seem to want me to move out now, because they know the scary guy and the director of the agency is afraid he will set fire to his building!! This is getting silly now I am popping into my local station on the way home, I cant live like this.

[SC2PC]

Oh great now my missus is worried that he will do something and has no faith that the police will protect us, she wants us to move now not sure how to make her see that the police would turn up fast if I called them had he turned up to my door

[manfromatlantis]

Some of this others have said in the previous replies

Make a log of everything to date detailing all the facts and things said. Bullit point each item with dates and times of all occurences.

Notify your training sergeant etc etc.

Report it through normal police channels if needed at duty desk etc.

Get half hour free consultation with solicitor. Dependant on advice of solicitor have letter sent to the other persons address notifying them that if they contact you through any other means than a solicitor letter this will be considered harrasement.

[SC2PC]

Hi all, thanks for the advice, Police came over I had to move to London for the time being because they deemed it not safe for me to stay. I was more worried about my girlfriend who is pregnant you see. The police did say I am not at fault and they know of these two, they said not the first time they have tried to con people, I feel a bit stupid that I did not see this coming, I can be too trusting sometimes. So yeah just to let you know I am living in London and I will continue to attend training I wont let them ruin my life any further.

[WT]

Hi all, thanks for the advice, Police came over I had to move to London for the time being because they deemed it not safe for me to stay. I was more worried about my girlfriend who is pregnant you see. The police did say I am not at fault and they know of these two, they said not the first time they have tried to con people, I feel a bit stupid that I did not see this coming, I can be too trusting sometimes. So yeah just to let you know I am living in London and I will continue to attend training I wont let them ruin my life any further.

Good man, i'm sure there'll be a positive outcome! The last thing you need is the other half being put under added stress!

[Ben_]

Absolutely disgusting, the fact you've felt the need to move for your safety shows how stressful this is. On the legal side of things until something is actually done I can't imagine it's too high up on the crime scale but it's one of the "more" scarier crimes.

At least if a knife crazed maniac comes towards you, you know what to expect (I'm not saying it's any better).

Intimidation and having no idea quite what they've got planned, or how far they'll go is scary.

My thoughts are with you and your partner.

Edited by Ben_, 12 May 2009 - 02:22 AM.

[arieas]

Clearly they are attempting to intimidate you for monetary gain. I can't remember the name of a guy, a con artist now banged up, he used threats such as harming family, friends etc in order to get a person to give them money, first by gaining the persons trust through business trades. Though they never carried out the threats despite having should up at one address with a balaclava, baseball and a wine bottle full of liquid (supposedly petrol)
The person paid up on the spot, but despite this threats continued until his demise at which he tried to sue a new business partner. This partner had recognised him though, and called the police. Turned out the bloke was using different names to trade under and fallen under the radar. Locked up for some happy years for fraud, affray and a few other crimes.



terrible to have to move. But for the safety of family its best, no saying what the guy will do, people are too unpredictable to risk life and limb.

[SC2PC]

Told my trainer today about what had happened. He was annoyed that I had to move and that nothing was done, not even a trip around to the guys house to see what was going on. I am still in London so driving to Chelmsford again tomorrow. I will more then likely have to transfer to another force now. Thanks for all the advice from everyone.

[Corbs]

That's terrible that this will have to be permanent. Good luck with the rest of this though.

[Mike Lima]

That's really terrible. I wish you and your girlfriend and child all the best. Stay safe and keep calm! Hopefully these morons will get nicked before they do anything worse.

My thoughts are with you and your family.

[Windhill]

That's really terrible. I wish you and your girlfriend and child all the best. Stay safe and keep calm! Hopefully these morons will get nicked before they do anything worse.

My thoughts are with you and your family.

Errrrrrrrr Mike Lima, you realise this thread is near 3 years old???


Was there ever an outcome SC2PC?