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[Paradox]

How about just wandering down to the house shouting "Police" and hoping they ###### off, im sure most would. Job done no one has to scrap and no issue about carrying a baton off duty.

Unless they decide to come outside and stab you...because they may not like police officers.

[LMTS]

BTP-PCSO

Your goign to be one of these types to drag this on and on untill everyone gives up - i really dont see a vaild debate here anymore...


YES I WOULD HELP MY FRIEND

BUT NOT WITH MY PPE... You seem to be adamant that *everyone* should use their PPE in this situation.. and most probably and more importantly you would in this occassion.. since you have argued it so much and thats all that matters!!

its not worth the career getting mixed up in these types of things

Edited by LMTS, 14 January 2010 - 12:21 AM.

[MerseyLLB]

It's essentially the equivalent of listening into your radio at home and then kitting up everytime something happened nearby. You just don't do it.

Difference being is that it is your friend.

On reflection, even though I don't believe any offences would be committed if the OP (as a serviceman) or a constable were to arm themselves and attend rigged and ready, I accept it can be a conflict of interest and possibly lead to hassle. I would advocate the use of a vest under civvy clothing then attend with a torch to assist you in seeing in the dark. I feel however that doing nothing, especially with a friend, is never an option unless you cannot (young children in your home, long distance etc)

[nic29]

.. and most probably and more importantly you would in this occasion... since you have argued it so much.
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Shame pcso's dont have ppe.

[Gelf]

Why involve yourself in that respect off duty though, you will just end up getting hurt

Are you seriosly asking this?

My friend (who I stated was a female) has just phoned me and said that someone is breaking in downstairs with god knows what intention and you are saying why get involved because I might get hurt?
I would not think twice about running round to her house to try and help her, it is my duty as a police officer to prevent any crime that I can, and while I would try and be as safe as I could, I would have no problem taking a beating or worse if it ment that she escaped unhurt.
I would be ashamed of myself if I ever thought I would let that happen to a MOP let alone my own friend.

[MerseyLLB]

.. and most probably and more importantly you would in this occasion... since you have argued it so much.



Shame pcso's dont have ppe.

Quickcuffs but they're not much use until you have the subject restrained!

[LMTS]

.. and most probably and more importantly you would in this occasion... since you have argued it so much.



Shame pcso's dont have ppe.

Well theres no way id equip a baton off duty - a special was sacked from our force for getting kitted up at an RTA and directing traffic off duty... and i thought that was semi- reasonable

[funkywingnut]

Unless they decide to come outside and stab you...because they may not like police officers.

Good point, I would make sure I put on my running trainers and my short, shorts so I could run fast
I don't know many occasions where someone would chase a bobby to stab them when there is an escape route open out the back.

[nic29]

Are you seriosly asking this?

My friend (who I stated was a female) has just phoned me and said that someone is breaking in downstairs with god knows what intention and you are saying why get involved because I might get hurt?
I would not think twice about running round to her house to try and help her, it is my duty as a police officer to prevent any crime that I can, and while I would try and be as safe as I could, I would have no problem taking a beating or worse if it ment that she escaped unhurt.
I would be ashamed of myself if I ever thought I would let that happen to a MOP let alone my own friend.

Im slightly misquoted here, see my other posts, i would definetly get involved, wouldnt go suited up though, id get there asap and make sure the police were ON THE WAY.

[funkywingnut]

Well theres no way id equip a baton off duty - a special was sacked from our force for getting kitted up at an RTA and directing traffic off duty... and i thought that was semi- reasonable

Thats a wee bit daft.

[Paradox]

Good point, I would make sure I put on my running trainers and my short, shorts so I could run fast
I don't know many occasions where someone would chase a bobby to stab them when there is an escape route open out the back.

Neither do I. But you wouldn't be standing there with your baton/spray/radio etc. so there's a good chance they will notice you are pretty vulnerable. They probably won't even believe you're an officer, and I doubt they'll ask to see your badge.

People become very unpredictable when threatened with confrontation...and as such do some very dangerous and unexpected things.

[funkywingnut]

Difference being is that it is your friend.

On reflection, even though I don't believe any offences would be committed if the OP (as a serviceman) or a constable were to arm themselves and attend rigged and ready, I accept it can be a conflict of interest and possibly lead to hassle. I would advocate the use of a vest under civvy clothing then attend with a torch to assist you in seeing in the dark. I feel however that doing nothing, especially with a friend, is never an option unless you cannot (young children in your home, long distance etc)

Just to clarify only Service Police/Military Police should be in possesion of a baton.

Fair point sooso.

Edited by funkywingnut, 14 January 2010 - 12:29 AM.

[nic29]

Thats a wee bit daft.

THIS TOPIC IS GETTING A LITTLE DAFT AS WELL,

ITS NOW WAYYYYYY

[funkywingnut]

Agreed lets leave it at yes its an offence for a MoP to have a baton otherthan in their home, its an offence to import them and if you do something you cant justify off duty is the job centre for you asa bobby.

[LMTS]

who revivved the topic anyway ?


/ thread...

[nic29]

Agreed lets leave it at yes its an offence for a MoP to have a baton otherthan in their home, its an offence to import them and if you do something you cant justify off duty is the job centre for you asa bobby.

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