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[recovery man]

• using a mobile without a handsfree device
  
• middle lane bandits
  
• cutting up the outside then trying to dib in at the junction/on the slip road.

We all have lapses in concentration but when you're driving along the M25 where there are 4 lanes that can be used and a person insists on sitting in lane 3 of those 4 yet the 2 inner ones are empty it makes my blood boil that i then have to traverse 3 lanes in order to overtake said individual!

Me as well i see it every day i am on the road,and allso what gets on my nerves are the foreign truck drivers who cut you up speed past you and in the wrong lane and in road works doing more then the 50mph. :rage:so lets hope they will get done as well and not skip home and not pay the fine for there bad driving.

[Olliedog]

I'm undecided on this. On the one hand used properly and paying due consideration at the time of issue to all the facts and having assessed the degree of 'carelessness' and weather it would likely later be argued in court the fact that the act wasn't below that of a 'careful competent driver' I think this has mileage.
Sadly I do feel it will just be used as a lazy quick hit by too many who are not really proficient in understanding the subjectiveness of careless drive offences. It's not really the same as most other traffic offences such as seatbelts and mobile phones which are really cut and dry in most cases.
Still we will see I guess.

[Samson]

I'm undecided on this. On the one hand used properly and paying due consideration at the time of issue to all the facts and having assessed the degree of 'carelessness' and weather it would likely later be argued in court the fact that the act wasn't below that of a 'careful competent driver' I think this has mileage.
Sadly I do feel it will just be used as a lazy quick hit by too many who are not really proficient in understanding the subjectiveness of careless drive offences. It's not really the same as most other traffic offences such as seatbelts and mobile phones which are really cut and dry in most cases.
Still we will see I guess.

They will when they start getting tickets bounced back at them by their skippers or falling flat at court.

[David]

I cant see this changing anything other than the revenue generated to the Gvt will go up.

Good because if people want to pay more then it keeps my overall tax burden down.

[DGP]

I hope that more people do get stuck on. Especially middle lane hoggers who genuinely feel that they have a right to drive their because they are doing 70 mob.

[Burnsy2023]

They will when they start getting tickets bounced back at them by their skippers or falling flat at court.

It's a bit late then though really.

[Radman]

They will when they start getting tickets bounced back at them by their skippers or falling flat at court.

That doesnt happen now though...

[Übèrnamè]

Can't wait until we can give out tickets for not indicating/not indicating properly.

[Radman]

Can't wait until we can give out tickets for not indicating/not indicating properly.

Yeah, that'd be well good .

[Samson]

That doesnt happen now though...

But the offences FPN(E)s are used for at the moment tend to be evidentially more clear cut than careless driving. Mobile phone and red light FPNs are really very straight forward statments so long as you remember ADVOKATE. Lazy careless driving FPNs stand a much greater chance of falling flat at court.

[Radman]

But the offences FPN(E)s are used for at the moment tend to be evidentially more clear cut than careless driving. Mobile phone and red light FPNs are really very straight forward statments so long as you remember ADVOKATE. Lazy careless driving FPNs stand a much greater chance of falling flat at court.

You'd hope.

Look at PNDs though and the number of them that slip through the net when they shouldn't.

[One]

I was watching a program on the TV the other day where the AA driving school takes drivers out and teaches them how to use the motorway. The thing is, the way they taught them to over take was wrong. They made you drive up close to the car in front before you over took them. Maybe this is one of the reasons why we get a lot of tailgaters nowadays. Also its an accident waiting to happen as if the car in front suddenly has a mechanical breakdown. The car behind could slam into it.