This just interests me. I don't think it's anything Operational that could have an affect on how we run...
It just interests me how people call up on PR. For example there's the correct way, the adopted way and the wrong way.
I call up something like....
T201 control.... Or T201 enquiries.
So, how do you do it..
How do you call up on PR
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, May 29 2012 12:58 PM
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 01:11 PM
By PR I assume you mean airwaves/police radio???
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 01:47 PM
It depends really on what I am doing at the time, if its general patrol and we get a shout I'll call up with callsign and location so if its going to be a 999 job the control room can see how close we are compared to other available resources.
Otherwise I just call up with the callsign I'm on - simple as that.
Otherwise I just call up with the callsign I'm on - simple as that.
#6
Posted 29 May 2012 - 01:49 PM
I think standard is to go "Yeah, Op1, name check, name is Stewart usual spelling..." and the reply is "Go to Support please".
#7
Posted 29 May 2012 - 01:50 PM
Depends on who you are trying to call up and what channel you are on.
(on the DRC channel - the old IBO channel)
DRC recieveing?......
DRC DRC recieveing?......
Anyone recieving this channel?.......
Is anyone monitoring this channel?.......
Anyone?.......
Does the DRC exist?......
(says to colleague with ptt pressed) What the hell do the DRC do? Absolutely useless........Calling DRC go ahead!
(on the DRC channel - the old IBO channel)
DRC recieveing?......
DRC DRC recieveing?......
Anyone recieving this channel?.......
Is anyone monitoring this channel?.......
Anyone?.......
Does the DRC exist?......
(says to colleague with ptt pressed) What the hell do the DRC do? Absolutely useless........Calling DRC go ahead!
#8
Posted 29 May 2012 - 02:10 PM
I think standard is to go "Yeah, Op1, name check, name is Stewart usual spelling..." and the reply is "Go to Support please".
As a radio op, I find this infuriating...
#9
Posted 29 May 2012 - 02:14 PM
As a radio op, I find this infuriating...
It's also something i've been told to avoid doing.
#10
Posted 29 May 2012 - 02:24 PM
Depends on the time of day or night, CCC tend to need a smile bringing to their world at 3am in the morning....."Ghhhoooooood morning TX from 8888, can I get V/L check on the Bath road.....maannny thanks". Then once you get the check done I like to go with "good job, many thanks".
#11
Posted 29 May 2012 - 02:27 PM
It's also something i've been told to avoid doing.
It's especially to be avoided if there are several ways of spelling the usual spelling of that particular name...
#12
Posted 29 May 2012 - 02:35 PM
It's especially to be avoided if there are several ways of spelling the usual spelling of that particular name...
I'm quite anal about how I do name checks, example...
T201 enquiries. Name PNC & Local please code (insert code)
201 from control, go ahead with number and location please
Yes yes... 1234556789 location is Smiths' road, Smithsvile, so far..
So far....
Surname SMITH (Sierra Mike India Tango Hotel), first name David (Delta Alpha Victor India Delta) So far....
So far...
DOB 18/01/1901 So far...
So far...
Address... 1, Doghead Road, Deadhead's vile....
#13
Posted 29 May 2012 - 02:59 PM
Correct way (for us at least) - Control, Control from <Callsign>
How I and most people actually do it - <Callsign> to Control
How some people do it - <Callsign>
As for a Person Check:
<Callsign> to Control
Go Ahead
Can I get a Person Check please Any Road, Anytown, <Collar No> Requesting
Pass Details
Surname Smith, Dave Jones 1-4-1-1-NineteenNinetyNine, White Male
Vehicle:
<Callsign> to Control
Go Ahead
Can I get Moving/Stationary Vehicle Check with Insurance please Any Road, Anytown, <Collar No> Requesting
Pass Details
Checking AB12 CDE White Vauxhall Astra
I always spell out anything that is possibly confusing, just in case, and vary how I breakdown the DOB depending on what it is, sometimes using "Fifteen", sometimes using "One Five", depends on the clearest way of saying it.
Note: we don't actually say the word Control in the above but I'm not sure if giving away our channel (which is what we actually say) might be considered operational so I haven't said it.
How I and most people actually do it - <Callsign> to Control
How some people do it - <Callsign>
As for a Person Check:
<Callsign> to Control
Go Ahead
Can I get a Person Check please Any Road, Anytown, <Collar No> Requesting
Pass Details
Surname Smith, Dave Jones 1-4-1-1-NineteenNinetyNine, White Male
Vehicle:
<Callsign> to Control
Go Ahead
Can I get Moving/Stationary Vehicle Check with Insurance please Any Road, Anytown, <Collar No> Requesting
Pass Details
Checking AB12 CDE White Vauxhall Astra
I always spell out anything that is possibly confusing, just in case, and vary how I breakdown the DOB depending on what it is, sometimes using "Fifteen", sometimes using "One Five", depends on the clearest way of saying it.
Note: we don't actually say the word Control in the above but I'm not sure if giving away our channel (which is what we actually say) might be considered operational so I haven't said it.
#14
Posted 29 May 2012 - 03:12 PM
That's why the NPIA has rolled out Airwave Speak ;-) : http://www.npia.poli..._User_Guide.pdf
#15
Posted 29 May 2012 - 03:22 PM
Who actually says 'over' at the end of a transmission?
I know you should in theory, but it is rare to actually hear it and is usually unnecessary.
Over.
I know you should in theory, but it is rare to actually hear it and is usually unnecessary.
Over.
#16
Posted 29 May 2012 - 03:26 PM
Who actually says 'over' at the end of a transmission?
I know you should in theory, but it is rare to actually hear it and is usually unnecessary.
Over.
Depends... If I'm in a night club where it's all kicking off I will say "Over" to make it clear I have finished what I'm saying and I've not been forced off air. A friend of mine works in control and she's just passed her operators course, so because she's knew and still being monitored I follow correct radio etiquette so that it helps her along.
#17
Posted 29 May 2012 - 03:26 PM
Who actually says 'over' at the end of a transmission?
I know you should in theory, but it is rare to actually hear it and is usually unnecessary.
Over.
#18
Posted 29 May 2012 - 04:01 PM
They tried introducing the "over" thing here recently but found that the bobbies overdid it to take the mick. This was at the same time our Comms 'rebranded' themselves to become Contact Management, which also resulted in mickey taking,
so for a week or two transmissions would go like:
"FQ71 to Pennine Contact Management over"
"Go ahead over"
"It looks like this fight is over over"
It didn't last long before they stopped pushing the "over" and "out" thing.
so for a week or two transmissions would go like:
"FQ71 to Pennine Contact Management over"
"Go ahead over"
"It looks like this fight is over over"
It didn't last long before they stopped pushing the "over" and "out" thing.
#19
Posted 29 May 2012 - 04:13 PM
Everyone has habits on the radio - Apparently mine is..
Speaking speaking blah blah blah.....(slight pause) oh-VER!
I almost always say over as it then leaves the ball in the other persons court - if they want something or are wating on something more they need to prod me.
Speaking speaking blah blah blah.....(slight pause) oh-VER!
I almost always say over as it then leaves the ball in the other persons court - if they want something or are wating on something more they need to prod me.
#20
Posted 29 May 2012 - 05:18 PM
It's an oft-mentioned comment that training on the radio only covers what buttons to press, not the actual way to talk - you end up havnig to pick that up operationally.
I find that we always use, on Big Air, the <destination> from <source> method - makes it a lot easier to pick up who's being called.
Where it does tend to fall foul a bit at times on the ABC,: especially annoying when someone is dribbling on about a closure for a minor log (which you know is going to be closed ASNT AIO, with none of the details they are giving) holding up other officers that need to broadacast something.
I find that we always use, on Big Air, the <destination> from <source> method - makes it a lot easier to pick up who's being called.
Where it does tend to fall foul a bit at times on the ABC,: especially annoying when someone is dribbling on about a closure for a minor log (which you know is going to be closed ASNT AIO, with none of the details they are giving) holding up other officers that need to broadacast something.
#21
Posted 29 May 2012 - 05:38 PM
"Received" is an odd one too. I know (and I am sure you do too) officers who appear to speak the latter part of that word nasally and not orally. Much entertainment provided on another unnecessary word which as in the case of Airwave at least, has a monetary cost.
If you haven't heard a transmission then you can say one word - "Repeat" as we canny radio hams do, or in Airwave speak you should increase that to four words "Please read back over"
If you haven't heard a transmission then you can say one word - "Repeat" as we canny radio hams do, or in Airwave speak you should increase that to four words "Please read back over"
#22
Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:48 PM
Mine tends to go:
"AZ01"
(pause)
"Control from AZ01"
(pause)
"Calling Control from AZ01"
(pause)
"Calling Urban Control, Urban Control receiving AZ01"
(long pause)
"Any unit from AZ01, radio check please"
"AZ01 from control, standby unless urgent please"
(Pause of several minutes, consisting of nothing but radio silence)
"AZ01 from control, go ahead"...
"AZ01"
(pause)
"Control from AZ01"
(pause)
"Calling Control from AZ01"
(pause)
"Calling Urban Control, Urban Control receiving AZ01"
(long pause)
"Any unit from AZ01, radio check please"
"AZ01 from control, standby unless urgent please"
(Pause of several minutes, consisting of nothing but radio silence)
"AZ01 from control, go ahead"...
#23
Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:50 PM
"Received" is an odd one too. I know (and I am sure you do too) officers who appear to speak the latter part of that word nasally and not orally. Much entertainment provided on another unnecessary word which as in the case of Airwave at least, has a monetary cost.
If you haven't heard a transmission then you can say one word - "Repeat" as we canny radio hams do, or in Airwave speak you should increase that to four words "Please read back over"
You've got to say something to let the control room know you've received the message...
#24
Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:58 PM
You've got to say something to let the control room know you've received the message...
I personally prefer Roger to Received
#25
Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:06 PM
You've got to say something to let the control room know you've received the message...
Not in real world off Airwave radio comms you don't, and it rarely happens even on Airwave from the regs who know how to use a two way radio and use it a lot more than Specials do. "Received" is almost exclusive to Airwave and as I say it is usually unnecessary. Listen to transmission from aircraft, ships and radio amateurs and you just will not hear that word.
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