Tsk,
You'd have thought the Birmingham Market 'Police' would have gone tunic order for such a royal occasion.... Complete with local authority buttons....
Bit odd he has a three digit number, you would think it would only go from 1 - 7
Security being Mistaken for Police Similar Uniforms
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, May 14 2012 08:05 PM
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#76
Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:26 AM
Bit odd he has a three digit number, you would think it would only go from 1 - 7
#77
Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:55 AM
Whats the score with Birmingham Market Police then? I know they are not attested as Constables but do they carry cuffs? Whats their remit? Did a google on them but it was all about pre 1976.
#78
Posted 19 May 2012 - 02:40 PM
Can anyone who has photo's of security who wear body armour or resemble Police please post any images on this discussion.
Can we also post photo's of less traditional police uniforms ? as there seems to be a wide variety of uniform across the country.
Can we also post photo's of less traditional police uniforms ? as there seems to be a wide variety of uniform across the country.
Edited by support, 19 May 2012 - 02:41 PM.
#80
Posted 20 May 2012 - 07:33 PM
I find it intriguing Andy was in Winson Green there, about 5/6 miles away from the city centre - why's he got his conventional mode radio on him, what good is it?!
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:24 PM
I had the pleasure of guarding a detainee in the hospital for a few hours this weekend and while we were waiting for our relief team, a new security bod turned up to take off his 'oppo', he looked so much like a SC etc that i initally though he was as he walked in, it was only as he got a little closer, it became obvious.
What i found funny however was that he was in black stabby, combats, quickwick top, ear pieced radio, belt order with several (to say the least) various pockets, large torch etc with a general look of wannabe super security, even with hands with a classic hands in stabby pose...this mate however had a over sized and blue NATO woolypully and a mobile dock on his belt....poles apart and more than enough proof that the other guy was a right poser.
I knew that anyway, as i've seen lots of the security at the site and none are geared like him.
J
What i found funny however was that he was in black stabby, combats, quickwick top, ear pieced radio, belt order with several (to say the least) various pockets, large torch etc with a general look of wannabe super security, even with hands with a classic hands in stabby pose...this mate however had a over sized and blue NATO woolypully and a mobile dock on his belt....poles apart and more than enough proof that the other guy was a right poser.
I knew that anyway, as i've seen lots of the security at the site and none are geared like him.
J
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 11:34 PM
I work closely with these fellas who look a heck of a lot like police. However because they are security on a private estate I guess they can dress how they like provided they aren't actually deliberately misleading people into thinking they're police.
http://www.flickr.co...bob/4738787488/
They also have a traffic division who wear white caps.
The canary wharf guys are ridiculous, my friend lives that way and they not only look like police they try to act like it. More than once I've had them ask me where I'm going or ask to search me. As CW is largely private they can ask me to leave but they seem to think I'm obliged to answer their questions too. That's the difference for me, they're intending to gain an advantage by looking like police.
#83
Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:05 AM
The worst I've seen are a company that dress their security guards to look almost like an NYPD officer, looked absolutely ridiculous.
#84
Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:59 AM
The worst I've seen are a company that dress their security guards to look almost like an NYPD officer, looked absolutely ridiculous.
Any pics?
#85
Posted 21 May 2012 - 03:00 PM
No unfortunately, this was when I lived in Edinburgh. It was a Sainsbury's (I think) just of Lothian Road.
#86
Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:44 PM
To any one of us, the "security" uniform is that, to an 80 year old pensioner at 8pm when someone knocks on the door saying a suspect is in the garden what does it look like? If police uniform is lost or stolen, correct procedure is (or should be) followed. If a van load of this security equipment is stolen or a box of it is lost, I doubt very much the victim would say to the police when reporting it; "Just to let you know, our uniform is a dead ringer to yours."
#87
Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:51 PM
Down in Chesunt way (Herts), in the council owned and operated public parks, they have something called park patrol or "Parks" as they are called. They have police radios which link in with our control room and even wear carriers the same as PC's in the local Constabulary. They look the most like Police Officers that I have seen, certainly in Hertfordshire anyway!
That said, they may look like Police Officers but they do seem to do a good job in keeping the parks safe. They work well with the Police and call us if they need an Officers assistance.
Gallery link: http://www.parkguard...ard-gallery.asp
That said, they may look like Police Officers but they do seem to do a good job in keeping the parks safe. They work well with the Police and call us if they need an Officers assistance.
Gallery link: http://www.parkguard...ard-gallery.asp
#88
Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:05 PM
To any one of us, the "security" uniform is that, to an 80 year old pensioner at 8pm when someone knocks on the door saying a suspect is in the garden what does it look like? If police uniform is lost or stolen, correct procedure is (or should be) followed. If a van load of this security equipment is stolen or a box of it is lost, I doubt very much the victim would say to the police when reporting it; "Just to let you know, our uniform is a dead ringer to yours."
The problem with what you say, there are two things,
No needs to steal police uniform, has most is on sale on ebay, & if a box did go missing, it would appear on the front page of the Sun or some other rag, before anyone noticed it was missing, a bit like data has in the past.
#89
Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:55 PM
I thought this pic was being posted as an example of a real police officer until I scrolled down!! Tactically positioned radio there!
#90
Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:02 PM
That's exactly what I thought, too.Tactically positioned radio there!
Edited by jackisback, 22 May 2012 - 03:02 PM.
#91
Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:50 PM
Down in Chesunt way (Herts), in the council owned and operated public parks, they have something called park patrol or "Parks" as they are called. They have police radios which link in with our control room and even wear carriers the same as PC's in the local Constabulary. They look the most like Police Officers that I have seen, certainly in Hertfordshire anyway!
That said, they may look like Police Officers but they do seem to do a good job in keeping the parks safe. They work well with the Police and call us if they need an Officers assistance.
Gallery link: http://www.parkguard...ard-gallery.asp
Dont forget, parkguard guys are 'accredited persons', under police reform act - so, to get that accreditation, they will of had to submit pictures of their vehicles, uniform, and id cards etc to the police chief giving them the accreditation.
So, the police who have accredited them under the community accreditation scheme have approved all their uniform and vehicles ..............................................
Sometimes, we dont help ourselves .......
#92
Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:55 PM
Couldn't possibly be a police constable could he? He looks smart, is carrying headgear and wearing a collar and tie!I thought this pic was being posted as an example of a real police officer until I scrolled down!! Tactically positioned radio there!
#93
Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:20 PM
http://www.evorespon...hp?p=4&t=3&i=27
I'm sure this bunch of "professionals" are walking a fine line.
I'm sure this bunch of "professionals" are walking a fine line.
#94
Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:25 PM
http://www.evorespon...hp?p=4&t=3&i=27
I'm sure this bunch of "professionals" are walking a fine line.
That would be 'metpro rapid response' then, just rebranded after their last company going bust.
#95
Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:29 PM
That would be 'metpro rapid response' then, just rebranded after their last company going bust.
Yup, apparently they can also put in a rolling road block if you "think you are being followed"
http://www.evorespon...ra_Services.pdf
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:19 PM
Yup, apparently they can also put in a rolling road block if you "think you are being followed"
http://www.evorespon...ra_Services.pdf
How would said service not end up resulting in dangerous/careless and inconsiderate driving? Which would of course then be an offence...
J
#97
Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:37 PM
No unfortunately, this was when I lived in Edinburgh. It was a Sainsbury's (I think) just of Lothian Road.
Given in Scotland strippers who are dressed as police officers are legally allowed to carry batons thanks to a mad court decision* is it really surprising that security staff get away with it?
* I don't think has been changed / reversed
#98
Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:43 PM
Couldn't possibly be a police constable could he? He looks smart, is carrying headgear and wearing a collar and tie!
All somewhat negated by the fact he hasn't even bothered to take his earpiece out when being addressed by royalty...
#99
Posted 22 May 2012 - 09:01 PM
I'm sure the male in question did eventually get done for it, though I think in that case he did more than just dress as one. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.Given in Scotland strippers who are dressed as police officers are legally allowed to carry batons thanks to a mad court decision* is it really surprising that security staff get away with it?
* I don't think has been changed / reversed
#100
Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:31 PM
How would said service not end up resulting in dangerous/careless and inconsiderate driving? Which would of course then be an offence...
J
Depends on what they mean - I'm guessing they don't run a rolling block 'TPAC' style on the suspect, but rather use their vehicles to assist the client in making progress; still could be inconsiderate but it depends how good they are - we regularly assist the 'VIP' motor during a convoy
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