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[walesmjc]

Important information about recruitment

The recruitment window for Student Police Officer applications will be open between 8:30am and 4.30pm on Monday 23rd April 2012.

The Constabulary is making 500 application forms available during this time. Prospective applicants are required to ring telephone number 01606 362211 providing your name, full address email and contact telephone number.

Please note that this number will only be answered between 8:30am and 4:30pm on Monday 23rd April.

It is expected that requests for applications will far exceed the number of application forms available;
therefore we will allocate application forms to the first 500 requests that meet the minimum requirements as outlined on the Cheshire Police website, http://www.cheshire....quirements.aspx.

Please note that multiple requests for application forms will result in your request for an application form being rejected.

Prospective applicants who have had an unsuccessful application in the last six months with either Cheshire or any other Force are not eligible to apply.

Transferred Applications

Cheshire Constabulary’s National Recruit Assessment Centre pass mark is currently set at 60% overall. Applicants who have achieved this pass mark within the last six months may transfer their application to Cheshire. They will be able to apply to do this between the times of 8:30am and 4.30pm on Monday 23rd April 2012.

Applicants who wish to transfer their applications are not required to complete an application form again. You should send an email with the subject title ‘Transferred Application’ to recruitment@cheshire.pnn.police.uk providing your name, address, contact telephone number, along with details of the Force you took the Assessment Centre with, pass marks and National Police Recruitment Number (found on the Assessment Centre Feedback Form).

http://www.cheshire....k/jobs/pcs.aspx

I had not seen this anywhere on your force specific area so thought i'd post it here for you guys!

[Mr So Special]

Point I raised in the main forum is that it says the pass mark is 60%, but on an e-mail I sent (asking a question in realtion, but not answered there) I got a reply saying the pass mark was 65%!

[BlueBand]

I fell just short of the 60%, ahh well.

[ChesPol]

I would of thought they would of recruited from Specials, PCSO's or Staff.

[Buck]

Yeh, I thought we would as well, we were told about it around a week before it went on the public website for what that's worth. It seems for whatever reason that Cheshire have decided not to only accept internal applicants for the time being.

[ChesPol]

It seems in other forces being a Special counts for something when it comes to recruitment. In Cheshire it seems to mean nothing. I'm not saying Specials should be guaranteed a PC job, but at least an application before Joe Public. GMP will only recruit from Internal. Met do it. And I believe Merpol will do.

How do you get them nifty banners at the bottom of your entry?

[ksks]

It was stated in the q and a with the chief a while back that cheshire would not be going down the route of recruiting from specials etc.

They only ever make 500 forms available - will it be applicants have to attend a recruitment event or be sent a pack out from phoning the recruitment number? My guess is that they will look to recruit about 40 officers from this recruitment drive.

Many of you Cheshire specials going to be applying?

[wanabe]

Many of you Cheshire specials going to be applying?

HELL YEAH!!!

[ksks]

so is the pass mark 60% or 65%? It has surprised me Cheshire have opened up recruitment as they had loads in the recruitment process but binned them all recently.

Any inside info from you Cheshire peeps as to timescales for this recruitment - ie, ac, interview, start dates etc

Cheers all.

[Mr So Special]

Cheshire never binned most their PC applications - intake 23 & 24 I think came from some that had applied back in 2009. I don't know why they're doing a phone line, they did used to do a seminar and PCSO's & Specials were told they would get a place if they wanted it, everyone else had to fight for it. I know some other forces do a phone line, this means they can ask questions such as"Have you lived in the UK for the last 3 years"? "Do you have any convications including driving offecnes"? That way, almost all of the applications will be based on the core questions rather than losing some as the applicant has been out of the country travelling for a year.

If the pass mark is 65% then that is high, they might want to cream some applications off the top and think about higher ranks over the next 10-15 years.

Edited by Ex donkey man, 17 April 2012 - 08:00 PM.

[ChesPol]

Word on the inside. 23 JOBS!!!!!

[ksks]

Ex donkey man - what i meant was after the last intake in february they binned everyone in the process as i had a fair few mates in the process. Many of whom will not be applying this time round but are looking to Derbyshire as they have 60 posts available.

23 seems a weird number - normal intakes are around 12 with a double intake being 20.

When would successful applicants be looking at starting - maybe septmeber when the february intake has finished?

I do not think the recruitment number will be staffed - i assume it will be an automated one which requests you to leave your details as is done for some police staff roles. From this you will be sent an application pack.If any of you cheshire folk have any more info on how this process will work - please just let us know. Maybe some specials in training may have info off the trainers?

[Mr So Special]

I've got my intensive week on 23rd April, then assessment on the 28th April - I'll see if I can squeeze anything out of the training Sgt (I guess you know who I mean)! If he'll give any info up!

[LondonSPC]

So what process are they going to use to decide between the 500 who got packs? Has anything been said about what they are looking for and how many will be called for Day 1?

[Buck]

500 External packs And I'd assume they'll just go with the national standards and processes

[wanabe]

500 External + 500 internal!! They sent out 1000 application packs.

[ksks]

So 1000 applications for 24 jobs?!

I heard internal staff had to call/email a different number than members of the public. How they are going to get 24 out of that many ill never know as I assume more than 24 people will pass everything.

Any news on this recruitment campaign from you cheshire folk?

[Buck]

I'm going to HQ tomorrow I'll see if I can dig anything up. We have until Wednesday to send the apps back and then we'll hear sometime in June if we were successful or not IIRC

[wanabe]

It will just be the top 24. After each stage the number decrease rapidly. Out off 1000 applications only about 200 make it through to the assessment centre. Then it's the top performing candidates that get through the assessment centre an so on until you are left with the number you want/need.

[ksks]

How can 800 people fail the papersift? I can only see this happening if they set criteria ie, only people who get an A proceed.

[wanabe]

How can 800 people fail the papersift? I can only see this happening if they set criteria ie, only people who get an A proceed.

They don't receive 1000 application forms back.

[Mr So Special]

I know that GMP in 2008 had 1,000 ONLINE application forms to be filled in, meaning they got 1,000 forms sent to them. Out of that 423 made the assessment. I was told that at a 50% pass mark, half would fail, then half again would fail the interview, medical and vetting. GMP was 54% at the time (I got 52%) and from 1,000 forms sent to them the intake was 130 student officers. So at 1,000 forms sent out and a pass mark of possibly 65% I can see only 40 or so getting through everything. I guess that they will take the top 24 and then possibly (I've known a few forces delay starts due to scores, but not bin them) the others on an intake afterwards.

[Nim]

Well ksks they could also 'randomly deselect people' - that happened to me when I applied for Avon & Somerset. Fortunately I was able to transfer my score to Gwent and do the AC with them... (Although they then binned everyone and recruited no one)... Some people will also get their application form and bulk at what they're being asked to fill in - it is like a mini bible and those competency questions are harder than they look to fill in. Anyhoo, I've applied and now the waiting game begins! Fingers and toes crossed!

[JDee]

Just to play devils advocate regarding the whole employ from Specials only etc..
It would be massively unfair to disregard or deny someone a fair opportunity to join the force simply because they dont have the time to do specials, due to family commitments etc. A lot of people I know who have children would love to join the specials but simply could not or would have the time to commit due to a full time job and the want of bringing a child up.

I agree though that for specials there should be an advantage given. Skip application would be my opinion. They already have 90% of the info from the specials app and the competency questions could be gathered from the interview part.

I have applied for this intake at Cheshire (currently a special sergeant in Cheshire) and am awaiting a reply. I know there is 23 places and approx a total of 900 apps were given out (500 external and 400 internal). All internal staff were guaranteed one (a big advantage in a way).
180 will be taken to assessment and then the best from that will then be taken to the final parts. All people who pass the assessment score though will be ,I believe, told they will be offered a place in order of score in the future.

[Nim]

Just to play devils advocate regarding the whole employ from Specials only etc..
It would be massively unfair to disregard or deny someone a fair opportunity to join the force simply because they dont have the time to do specials, due to family commitments etc. A lot of people I know who have children would love to join the specials but simply could not or would have the time to commit due to a full time job and the want of bringing a child up.

I agree though that for specials there should be an advantage given. Skip application would be my opinion. They already have 90% of the info from the specials app and the competency questions could be gathered from the interview part.

I have applied for this intake at Cheshire (currently a special sergeant in Cheshire) and am awaiting a reply. I know there is 23 places and approx a total of 900 apps were given out (500 external and 400 internal). All internal staff were guaranteed one (a big advantage in a way).
180 will be taken to assessment and then the best from that will then be taken to the final parts. All people who pass the assessment score though will be ,I believe, told they will be offered a place in order of score in the future.

That last part is interesting, thanks for that.

I daresay they'd be treading on thin ice if specials were to jump the paper sift process. Not all forces have the same recruitment process for specials and police staff also have competency questions / assessments that were passed to get the job. Therefore would that apply to all specials, internal and external and would it apply to police staff too?? Easier just to make everyone fill in the same form. Especially given that you are then judging everyone on the same platform.