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#1 DanWUN

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:30 PM

Seen the chiefs message today Black body armor is coming back!

He admits the high vis has it's benefits with cycle patrols but all replacements will now be black.

Im happy but i would rather be issued with a new black cover now and prolong the life of the high vis one for cycle or HVP patrols.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:32 PM

Heard about this a while ago - still waiting on my Body armor to arrive, so hoping it'll be black! Hate the Hi-vis one

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:13 PM

Seen the chiefs message today Black body armor is coming back!

He admits the high vis has it's benefits with cycle patrols but all replacements will now be black.

Im happy but i would rather be issued with a new black cover now and prolong the life of the high vis one for cycle or HVP patrols.

Dan


where have you read this?

#4 Slim Jim

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 11:15 PM

Chief Constable's Weekly Message - Should be in your email inbox at work.

The black body armour covers are also cheaper....Which raises the question as to how much we could have saved if we had had black in the first place.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 01:53 AM

Does anyone know what this means to us who are likely (all being well) to get issued kit in the next month (give or take)? will it be black or hi-viz?

Edited by FidelChazztro, 08 April 2012 - 01:54 AM.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 10:39 AM

Saw the email the other day! Unfortunately I've not long been issued the high-vis so I think I'll be waiting a while :p

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:50 AM

:p

#8 Mayday

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 12:38 PM

Does anyone know what this means to us who are likely (all being well) to get issued kit in the next month (give or take)? will it be black or hi-viz?


I would assume the Warehouse will use previous Hi-Vis stock. I doubt you'll get your armor, there is a rather large back log, i'm still waiting on mine :p

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 03:39 PM

It strikes me that what is needed is a balance between the two designs. All yellow hi-vis is too garish, but all black is difficult to spot and not good in traffic situations. My suggestion would be a black background with a few blue or white (or battenburg) retro-reflective bands horizontally and/or vertically across.
Feel free to email this to the CC :D

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:04 PM

It strikes me that what is needed is a balance between the two designs. All yellow hi-vis is too garish, but all black is difficult to spot and not good in traffic situations. My suggestion would be a black background with a few blue or white (or battenburg) retro-reflective bands horizontally and/or vertically across.
Feel free to email this to the CC :p


The black being no good is a moot point anyway, because not even the yellow body armour covers meet the necessary criteria for traffic work (meaning an overcoat is required regardless, rendering the colour of the body armour beneath it irrelevant).

Edited by adslegend, 08 April 2012 - 06:04 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:29 PM

The black being no good is a moot point anyway, because not even the yellow body armour covers meet the necessary criteria for traffic work (meaning an overcoat is required regardless, rendering the colour of the body armour beneath it irrelevant).


Interesting to know, although I didn't necessarily mean just for traffic officers. Any officer might find themselves in a situation where they need to be "high-vis", but I'd like to think we could do that whilst making them look more professional than they do covered in yellow.

By the way, it's very distracting having that BADGER BADGER BADGER gif bouncing up and down above the quick reply box :p

#12 Slim Jim

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 07:08 PM

Well for the cycle patrols and the HVP on foot around the night-time towns, how about doing what Dorset do and have high-vis tac vests over the black body armour? More than enough pockets for all the necessary forms, PNBs and equipment pouches.

And when did we start wearing black body armor? I mean I like the black color and the yellow stuff isn't exactly flavor of the month but please, please...let's be using U's!

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:19 PM

And also a return of Number 1's (Tunic) for Crown Court and Coroner's court....

#14 Slim Jim

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:03 PM

I'm all for looking smarter in Court. I have been told by the CPS when attending court if I could take my body armour off as the magistrates don't like the colour. I never did give evidence but I do see their point.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:38 AM

Adslegend - our high-vis armour does meet all the requirements for working on roads without the need for a jacket, bar those termed 'fast roads' i.e. motorway, dual carriageway etc.

I rather like my high-vis. Before it became standard issue our SNT invested in high-vis covers to make it easier for when we were out on the bikes, so we could be seen easierly, not having to wear restrictive and obstructive jackets etc. Of course I can totally understand why the current covers have their draw backs what with trying to keep them clean, standing out like a sore thumb in certain situations where it's not desirable ... o and not forgetting attracting every flying insect within a 10 metre radius.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:37 PM

I'm so pleased by this announcement. The black covers look so much better.

#17 hampshiresaint

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:16 AM

I actually prefer the hi-vis.

#18 Mayday

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:32 AM

Have spoken to the Equipment store, these will ONLY be issued as replacements when needed for the High Vis, and are not taking effect just yet.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:48 PM

Got the long awaited blood on my hi viz stabbie the other night, state 5 black cover :D

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 08:58 AM

Got the long awaited blood on my hi viz stabbie the other night, state 5 black cover :D


A few officers had theres replaced recently. They go hi-vis ones in return. Apparently they have a large stock to get through before the black ones are issued.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 09:05 AM

A few officers had theres replaced recently. They go hi-vis ones in return. Apparently they have a large stock to get through before the black ones are issued.


Actually you're right and wrong. Yes they may have a large stock overall, but considering the amount of varying sizes, they only need to run out of *your* size for it to be a winner!

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 01:36 PM

Actually you're right and wrong. Yes they may have a large stock overall, but considering the amount of varying sizes, they only need to run out of *your* size for it to be a winner!

Like that way of thinking.

Plus maybe they'll look kindly on me, I did specify about 3 times on the form that I needed a BLACK cover.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 05:09 PM

I went for my uniform fit on thursday, tried on a hi-viz stabbie (of which they had quite a few in my size), the chap took it off and said "ok, I'll order you a nice new black one and send it to your station". They had rows and rows of hi-viz ones that they have to shift so if you need a replacement, chances are you'll get another one.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 05:16 PM

Seems a bit odd if they have hi-viz covers to give you and then they give you a black cover. How did you get on with Gateway, did you pass?

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 09:52 AM

I thought it was quite strange myself. The chap sort of contradicted himself really.. First he said "look at all these bloody hi-viz covers we have to shift" then when he was just about to give me one he said "nah better keep these for the replacements." Not complaining though.

Went really well. Took the exam on Monday evening and found out on Wednesday that I'd passed with 80%. Well chuffed.

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