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[GodAtum]

This is a show on ITv about criminals putting skimmers etc onto ATMs. My question is, and I'm no fraud expert, is why dont bank staff check ATMs every hour or so? That would deter the gangs easily.

[smt]

Presumably because the device would have been removed by then.

Perhaps some of the devices require a special tool to remove, thus making it difficult to detect by bank staff.

[Dizzydee]

This is a show on ITv about criminals putting skimmers etc onto ATMs. My question is, and I'm no fraud expert, is why dont bank staff check ATMs every hour or so? That would deter the gangs easily.

Not all ATMs' are at banks!

[RequiemSC]

Not all ATMs' are at banks!

For those that are in banks/building society's, it takes a lot of time to open up an ATM to check it, it goes into service and would cause hassle for people trying to use them. External ATMs don't open from the front, where the devices are often attached. And in some cases, the skimmers are so well concealed even employees might not notice!

[Radman]

For those that are in banks/building society's, it takes a lot of time to open up an ATM to check it, it goes into service and would cause hassle for people trying to use them. External ATMs don't open from the front, where the devices are often attached. And in some cases, the skimmers are so well concealed even employees might not notice!

You can generally check for some of the cruder models of 'loops' ect.

I usually check the card entry thing (via a wobble/pull) just to make sure nothing is there, I also cover my pin as i've heard of some gangs using hidden cameras (no joke)

[ococircusboy]

Cameras are used but not that often. Usually the loops and devices put on the machines are quite shoddy if people took a few seconds to look. A few I have dealt with were literally a plastic cover and tape, but somehow somebody still decided to use the machine and did not find tape and plastic suspicious.

[Clunk45]

This is a show on ITv about criminals putting skimmers etc onto ATMs. My question is, and I'm no fraud expert, is why dont bank staff check ATMs every hour or so? That would deter the gangs easily.

Surely you've heard of this before it's been going on for years. While i do think that the staff should check the atms, others are right, often times the skimmers operate late at night when no one is around to check. Esp on weekends where hundreds use atms then after a couple of hours they have got alot of victims.

I honestly don't think the police or government have done enough/anything to stop this problem.

Presumably because the device would have been removed by then.

Perhaps some of the devices require a special tool to remove, thus making it difficult to detect by bank staff.

First point is true, second one ; normally the fake fronts of the atm are stuck on with some sort of adhesive, such as no nails glue or stuff like double sided sticky tape. never seen one attached any other way, its too difficult and time consuming to start drilling holes or whatever.

For those that are in banks/building society's, it takes a lot of time to open up an ATM to check it, it goes into service and would cause hassle for people trying to use them. External ATMs don't open from the front, where the devices are often attached. And in some cases, the skimmers are so well concealed even employees might not notice!

Which i think is just ridiculous while i agree they are well disguised how hard is it to have a completly flat atm interface so anything stuck on is protruding.

You can generally check for some of the cruder models of 'loops' ect.

I usually check the card entry thing (via a wobble/pull) just to make sure nothing is there, I also cover my pin as i've heard of some gangs using hidden cameras (no joke)

And that's what everyone should do.

The fraudsters often attach a phone camera into the top of the fake fascia board.

I've seen various crime shows which you see all of this so it's pretty easy to figure it all out, i was even trying to invent a way to stop it happening. I've had some pretty good ideas like putting a cage over the front of the atm so you can only slot your card in and no one one can stick anything onto a cage.

The victim was lucky in this video as the hidden camera fell off.



often the hidden cameras are pinhole sized so extremly hard to see thats why carefree mops get frauded so easily.

It's not to hard to educate yourself and others on what to watch out for. Thankfully ITV did a bit more to get the ball rolling.

Edited by Clunk45, 16 April 2012 - 12:21 PM.