A regular task at football matches is to ensure that fans get on the coach after a match as quickly as possible without incident.
However bearing in mind that:
- they are in a public place
- they have not been required to disperse under s27
- no other orders are in place
- their coach is legally parked
- no offences are being comitted
is it legal to insist they get on their coach and even use hands on to guide them to it (or even shove them on it)
I ask because this is commonly done, but I struggle to see what grounds there are to legitimately do anything other than ask them to leave.
The other option is telling to coach to leave without them, but again if there is no obstruction doeshe have to?
8 replies to this topic
#2
Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:18 PM
I cant see any offences, if people just dont want to get on the coach, they dont have to and unless the coach driver is committing offences then you cant tell the him/her to move the coach
#3
Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:22 PM
Brendan never has any trouble getting passengers onto the coach.
He is so good at it that to force them to leave, he first gives them a yellow card then a second yellow which becomes a red and they then wander off into the distance with their luggage.
He is so good at it that to force them to leave, he first gives them a yellow card then a second yellow which becomes a red and they then wander off into the distance with their luggage.
#4
Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:26 PM
Brendan never has any trouble getting passengers onto the coach.
He is so good at it that to force them to leave, he first gives them a yellow card then a second yellow which becomes a red and they then wander off into the distance with their luggage.
And the relevance to the thread is???????
#5
Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:27 PM
...even use hands on to guide them to it (or even shove them on it)...
Depending on the circumstances it could be a use of force to prevent a breach of the peace.
#6
Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:08 PM
^What Samson said. The reason you put fans on coaches/trains is so that they are well out of the way from the rivals.
#7
Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:43 PM
And the relevance to the thread is???????
Its tongue incheek - Coach trip LOL
#9
Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:35 AM
Somewhat similar, and there might be more info and details available online.
Stoke City fans receive £185,000 after police bar them from Man Utd game
And whilst that wasn’t just placing on coaches after the match and being made to leave, as the failure to see the game would impact upon the circumstances. Well, it does seem to imply or suggest that an “ends justify the means” approach might not be advisable – insofar as the incorrect use of s.27 might not be any different than an incorrect use of breach of the peace / to avoid breach of the peace. ( the greater good might be noble, but the devils in the detail and provisons that allow it)
Stoke City fans receive £185,000 after police bar them from Man Utd game
And whilst that wasn’t just placing on coaches after the match and being made to leave, as the failure to see the game would impact upon the circumstances. Well, it does seem to imply or suggest that an “ends justify the means” approach might not be advisable – insofar as the incorrect use of s.27 might not be any different than an incorrect use of breach of the peace / to avoid breach of the peace. ( the greater good might be noble, but the devils in the detail and provisons that allow it)
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