I was wondering about this earlier, and it's probably relevant to a lot of specials here with ambitions to become regulars...
If an officer charges, summonses or otherwise reports someone for process or is an important witness in something which occurs shortly before they leave the force for whatever reason, and subsequently the case goes to court, what happens? If PC Bloggs is one of your main or perhaps your only witness and has since retired, does he get hauled back in a suit to stand in the box? How about if he has been fired for some form of misconduct? More of relevance to Specials, let's say SC Smith reports someone for something shortly before he's due to leave to become a regular and a few months later when it goes to court he's no longer SC 1234 Smith but PC 4321 Smith. Does Smith still have to go to court, and if so does he go as a PC rather than the SC he was at the time?
Obviously there'd be an element of common sense - if you knew you didn't have long left in the job you'd be careful about putting yourself in that position but occasionally these things just spring up in front of you and have to be dealt with.
Court warned after leaving the job
Started by
Sceptre
, Mar 05 2012 11:49 PM
7 replies to this topic
#2
Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:52 PM
PC Smith would go as PC Smith. Why would he go as SC if he is now a PC?
& I do believe former officers can be called into court.
& I do believe former officers can be called into court.
#3
Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:53 PM
yes, you can be called and you would attend not in uniform and introduce yourself as "formerly police constable xxx....."
If you had been sacked or whatever there is a form for the case file relating to the police officer's disciplinary record and it is disclosed to the defence. If deemed relevent it might be brought up in open court but that is a matter for the judge.
If you had been sacked or whatever there is a form for the case file relating to the police officer's disciplinary record and it is disclosed to the defence. If deemed relevent it might be brought up in open court but that is a matter for the judge.
#4
Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:55 PM
And there you have it, nought to answered in four minutes. Cheers chaps, +1s on me.
#5
Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:01 AM
Yes - Courts can do compel witnesses to attend Court even if they have left the job. If the officer concerned is subject to formal discipline then that may also have to be declared to a Court Form MG6B
See Manual Of Guidance http://www.nationala...pd/pvu/mg6b.pdf
See Manual Of Guidance http://www.nationala...pd/pvu/mg6b.pdf
#6
Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:06 AM
A colleague of mine was a Special in one force, moved to being a PC in a different force but then had to attend court for a case from the original force.
#7
Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:12 AM
Was with a former MSC officer the other day who is now a regular in Court. so it happens quite often!
#8
Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:39 PM
I've also known cops that have put in for transfer being placed into holding jobs where there is much less likelihood of them generating work that would go to court. You're not going to get to stay on a major incident team if you want to move to the other end of the country at some point in the next few years.
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