Its the new Focus for our response cars (still no idea on what the advanced ones will be)
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Vauxhall Wins U.K. Police-Vehicle Contract
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, Oct 27 2011 08:25 PM
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:25 AM
Its the new Focus for our response cars (still no idea on what the advanced ones will be)
They not decided on the 5 series for you guys?
#28
Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:19 PM
Well as all our section cars outside conurbation are 1.8TDi focus estates (because we cant fit all the kit in the saloon) than I hope they don't get replaced by Astra saloons when their time comes. I certainly hope our VW vans don't get replaced with Vauxhalls either as I haven't found a van (other than a Merc) that beats the VW for stability and performance.
#29
Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:22 PM
Changes from one day to next. Due a replacement for a crashed car, so will see what we get. Heard you guys are getting some 3 series?They not decided on the 5 series for you guys?
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:10 PM
Scotland have gone for Vauxhall for the basic category only, ie Unit beat cars & CID. From what I can tell it is a mix of Corsas and Astras with the 1.3CDTi engine but I'm not aware of any in Strathclyde, yet, and don't know if there will be any estates or just Astras hatchbacks for Pandas.
Strathclyde have bought a small number of Focus 1.8-115TDCi estates for the intermediate / response category, but as these are end of line previous model ones they probably got them at a keen price and may not be what they get next. This decision to go with Vauxhall was made before the announcement of the single Scottish force but its the start of nationalisation, identical Astras from Gretna to John O Groats!!
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Strathclyde have bought a small number of Focus 1.8-115TDCi estates for the intermediate / response category, but as these are end of line previous model ones they probably got them at a keen price and may not be what they get next. This decision to go with Vauxhall was made before the announcement of the single Scottish force but its the start of nationalisation, identical Astras from Gretna to John O Groats!!
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#31
Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:53 PM
West Mids are getting insignias so this may be the way it goes for us. Hopefully as our basic response vehicle.
Edit for spelling
From what I've heard there going back to a Area car type arrangment first so there will probly end up going to the Taser crews first and as they break make there way down to us
#32
Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:43 PM
We've been using these in Herts for sometime now, or at least if the 01 plate i saw on Wedneday is anything to go by.
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 12:07 AM
Humberside, slowly seem to be having Vauxhall Vivaro type vans appearing, seen 1 in the Cottingham area a few weeks back and have also seen 1 on the South Bank.
#34
Posted 30 October 2011 - 03:13 PM
Changes from one day to next. Due a replacement for a crashed car, so will see what we get. Heard you guys are getting some 3 series?
Supposedly! They were ordered months ago but they haven't arrived yet even though they were supposedly in stock and ready to go. Should be good when they do turn up though - far more practical then the Volvos (as you can turn them around in less than 25 manoeuvres to go after people) and obviously a lot more comfortable and quick than the Fords.
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 04:03 PM
Supposedly! They were ordered months ago but they haven't arrived yet even though they were supposedly in stock and ready to go. Should be good when they do turn up though - far more practical then the Volvos (as you can turn them around in less than 25 manoeuvres to go after people) and obviously a lot more comfortable and quick than the Fords.
Comfy isn't a word i would use
BMW are shocking with their time scales, Volvo would have a new car with you In a month and a courtesy car to keep you going, BMW you join the queue with everyone else
#36
Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:51 PM
we are in the chilternam transport consortium and we are still getting fords and mitsibuishi (can never spell that and too lazy to google it 
). three arrived last week and more are on the way, we are also trialling a Volvo at the minute as a replacement for the Ford response cars.
). three arrived last week and more are on the way, we are also trialling a Volvo at the minute as a replacement for the Ford response cars.
#37
Posted 01 November 2011 - 05:00 PM
I absolutely detest the 1.3 diesel Astra. The only way you can get a reasonable pace out of them is if you get the turbo to scream louder than the siren. When they stall the engine sounds like it has either exploded or fallen out the bottom of the car.
#38
Posted 02 November 2011 - 03:15 PM
If the new astras have a bull horn like the insignias, i'm happy!!
#39
Posted 02 November 2011 - 03:35 PM
If the new astras have a bull horn like the insignias, i'm happy!!
Maybe direct the bullhorn backwards and you might get a bit more acceleration...
#40
Posted 02 November 2011 - 05:19 PM
Comfy isn't a word i would use
BMW are shocking with their time scales, Volvo would have a new car with you In a month and a courtesy car to keep you going, BMW you join the queue with everyone else
I've got a 3 series with m-sport suspension on 18" low profile run flats - most cars car comfortable to me
#41
Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:39 AM
New shape astras have no space in the back (even less than last shape), which will make it even harder transporting prisoners. Insignia are detested by the RPU as they are so unreliable, think there is a move to Volvo which they are happy about.
I cannot understand this insistance on having the small engined models, there is no difference in the speed once going, but there are potential safety issues in slow overtakes etc. Most people themselves have bigger engines than 1.3 just for practicality (even my elderly neighbour stumped up for 1.7l diesel), let alone lugging two fully kitted officers plus road safety equipent plus their own kit bags..
Just look at the US all their vehicles are specially built with the space and ability to cope with any situation. Granted we don't need yank tanks but reasonable sized and powered vehicles should be available.
I cannot understand this insistance on having the small engined models, there is no difference in the speed once going, but there are potential safety issues in slow overtakes etc. Most people themselves have bigger engines than 1.3 just for practicality (even my elderly neighbour stumped up for 1.7l diesel), let alone lugging two fully kitted officers plus road safety equipent plus their own kit bags..
Just look at the US all their vehicles are specially built with the space and ability to cope with any situation. Granted we don't need yank tanks but reasonable sized and powered vehicles should be available.
#42
Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:25 PM
New shape astras have no space in the back (even less than last shape), which will make it even harder transporting prisoners. Insignia are detested by the RPU as they are so unreliable, think there is a move to Volvo which they are happy about.
I cannot understand this insistance on having the small engined models, there is no difference in the speed once going, but there are potential safety issues in slow overtakes etc. Most people themselves have bigger engines than 1.3 just for practicality (even my elderly neighbour stumped up for 1.7l diesel), let alone lugging two fully kitted officers plus road safety equipent plus their own kit bags..
Just look at the US all their vehicles are specially built with the space and ability to cope with any situation. Granted we don't need yank tanks but reasonable sized and powered vehicles should be available.
Let's be honest, we're a bit of a laughing stock compared to the US when it comes to equipment. I mean, they have the new Ford Interceptor, a specially made police car, the base model having 260-odd bhp (as opposed to 1.7 Astras with less than half that) and top end models having 365-hp twin-turbo 3.5-litre V6 engines.
The popular Crown Victoria as used all over the US has a massive V8 engine. And it's the norm for US police cars to have cages in the back.
A 1.3 diesel Astra as a police car is a joke.
#43
Posted 07 November 2011 - 04:26 PM
Let's be honest, we're a bit of a laughing stock compared to the US when it comes to equipment. I mean, they have the new Ford Interceptor, a specially made police car, the base model having 260-odd bhp (as opposed to 1.7 Astras with less than half that) and top end models having 365-hp twin-turbo 3.5-litre V6 engines.
The popular Crown Victoria as used all over the US has a massive V8 engine. And it's the norm for US police cars to have cages in the back.
A 1.3 diesel Astra as a police car is a joke.
It's just a shame the American's don't have the great driver training we have over here to drive them.
#44
Posted 07 November 2011 - 05:13 PM
Here's a pic of one of our new Astra's i've been sent.
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#45
Posted 07 November 2011 - 06:27 PM
We've been using these in Herts for sometime now, or at least if the 01 plate i saw on Wedneday is anything to go by.
Hatfields area car has finally been replaced by a 58plate Insignia!!
#46
Posted 07 November 2011 - 06:56 PM
Hatfields area car has finally been replaced by a 58plate Insignia!!
Lol, sloppy seconds!
#47
Posted 07 November 2011 - 07:04 PM
That's quite nice. The livery works quite well.Here's a pic of one of our new Astra's i've been sent.
#48
Posted 08 November 2011 - 12:19 PM
Hatfields area car has finally been replaced by a 58plate Insignia!!
How many miles does it have on it? When we had our Insignia (before it was crashed), it was a brand new '60 plate one!!!
Lol, sloppy seconds!
You say that...as our insignia got written off....our 'new' area car is Hatfields old one with 150,000 miles on!!
#49
Posted 08 November 2011 - 05:20 PM
That's quite nice. The livery works quite well.
Except it's not about the looks!
The use of small engined vehicles is a money thing - fuel is a big cost even at the rates we get it for in our own station pumps.
Vauxhall will have won by being cheapest on initial purchase price, fuel consumption rates and long warranty to off set repair costs, i.e. the bottom line, as oppose to practicalities.
#50
Posted 08 November 2011 - 05:32 PM
Sometimes we have debated about our astras being fast roads vehicles. The newer one with the 3/4 battenburg (as seen here: http://www.flickr.co...N02/5377810449/) are the normal vehicle we use and as per ACPO guidelines they qualify as fast roads vehicles. However, also able to deal with fast roads stuff if you go off ACPO guidelines is the old Herts Police astra as seen here - http://www.flickr.co...in/photostream/ . This is because the ACO guidelines say a fast roads vehicle must have at least half battenburg which both do.
The new ones do not. No doubt they will be sent to RTCs though.
The new ones do not. No doubt they will be sent to RTCs though.
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