I'm putting in for it. Anyone else?
Sgts OSPRE 2012
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museman
, Sep 19 2011 12:50 PM
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Posted 19 September 2011 - 02:07 PM
Nope. No realistic prospect of promotion for the next 3 years, there's not much point in my force.
#3
Posted 19 September 2011 - 02:21 PM
Just curious...If you pass your exams, but there's no vacancy for a Sergeant, what happens? You're called a sergeant but keep the same pay? Or something else?
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Posted 19 September 2011 - 02:31 PM
Just curious...If you pass your exams, but there's no vacancy for a Sergeant, what happens? You're called a sergeant but keep the same pay? Or something else?
No you pass part 1 and then have to take part 2.
If there are no vacancies then if an opportunity comes up you might be asked to "Act Up" so will take in a Sgt role, but still be on your PC pay.
Or if there are no posts, and no option to act you up stay as a PC until there is.
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Posted 19 September 2011 - 03:27 PM
Im going to do it and get it out of the way
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Posted 19 September 2011 - 03:46 PM
No you pass part 1 and then have to take part 2.
If there are no vacancies then if an opportunity comes up you might be asked to "Act Up" so will take in a Sgt role, but still be on your PC pay.
Or if there are no posts, and no option to act you up stay as a PC until there is.
But you don't have to retake your Sgt's exams? Sound's worth it.
#7
Posted 19 September 2011 - 04:45 PM
I was considering going in for it, I have been told I can do part 1 during probation but obviously have to wait till end of probation before acting up or going for part 2 etc.
Does anyone else have to do a pre part 1 exam? or is it just my force?
Does anyone else have to do a pre part 1 exam? or is it just my force?
#8
Posted 19 September 2011 - 06:07 PM
Even if there is no real prospect of promotion for a few years it is still good to get under your belt. I'm taking my part II next month having passed part I at the first attempt and although the exam is far from easy, you'll benefit no matter what the result. If you pass you're a step closer to promotion and if you fail at least you've improved your knowledge.
You can take your part I whilst you're still in your probation but you must be out of your probation by the November of that year (can't remember the exact date).
You can take your part I whilst you're still in your probation but you must be out of your probation by the November of that year (can't remember the exact date).
#9
Posted 19 September 2011 - 08:12 PM
Part 1 pass is valid for 5 years, if you haven't passed your part 2/board within that time you have to retake the exam.
#10
Posted 19 September 2011 - 08:43 PM
I'm pretty sure in the met you just have to apply for the WBA in that time, not started or completed it. I'm planning on banking it for a couple of years, until after the olympics at any rate.
Edited by museman, 19 September 2011 - 08:43 PM.
#11
Posted 19 September 2011 - 09:47 PM
I'm going to do it! - I wasn't going to but changed my mind after having basically been told to by lots of people....
#12
Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:18 AM
I'm going to do it! - I wasn't going to but changed my mind after having basically been told to by lots of people....
Yes it definitely worth doing... and if I know you Ben "Mr. Legal Dictionary" you will blitz it!!
Only issue I am finding now (having passed it this year) is trying to decide whether to put myself in a position that will perhaps help an earlier promotion (as in gaining evidence) or stick with what I know and do other things I want first.
By the way I will have the 2011 Blackstones books and 2011 Blackstone Q&A's for sale if anyone wants them - PM me... the 2012 equivalent will cost over £100. I reverted to using the Tom Barron Crammers plus CD's and I did a Checkmate 3 day course. I am not a big reader so the mass of information in Blackstones was just too much for me to take in.
If you read alot... just get stuck into Blackstones... if not then I would suggest you look for Police Pass... I found their CD's very good and I would go for their books rather than Tom Barrons and do their three day course if I was taking the test again. A colleague used just the Janes Crammer book... reading it for just two weeks and he managed to pass.
#13
Posted 20 September 2011 - 09:03 AM
Yes it definitely worth doing... and if I know you Ben "Mr. Legal Dictionary" you will blitz it!!
I have a reputation to live up to!
one of the (many) reasons I'm changing jobs....Only issue I am finding now (having passed it this year) is trying to decide whether to put myself in a position that will perhaps help an earlier promotion (as in gaining evidence) or stick with what I know and do other things I want first.
#14
Posted 20 September 2011 - 09:31 AM
I have a reputation to live up to!
one of the (many) reasons I'm changing jobs....
I am very tempted to join you too!!! but I want driving, possibly to go down the traffic route later.
#15
Posted 20 September 2011 - 01:16 PM
No you pass part 1 and then have to take part 2.
If there are no vacancies then if an opportunity comes up you might be asked to "Act Up" so will take in a Sgt role, but still be on your PC pay.
Or if there are no posts, and no option to act you up stay as a PC until there is.
You get paid Sgts pay for the hours you do acting up
I was considering going in for it, I have been told I can do part 1 during probation but obviously have to wait till end of probation before acting up or going for part 2 etc.
Does anyone else have to do a pre part 1 exam? or is it just my force?
No I didn't have to do one but if you score a very low score (can't remmeber the percentage) you get hauled in front of the Inspector to explain why you haven't put any study in.
I'm going to do it! - I wasn't going to but changed my mind after having basically been told to by lots of people....
I'd recommend doing it as early as possible if you have even the slightest thought of promotion in the future, if you're only just out of probation you will probably adapt more easily to the world of OSPRE where the answer is often not what would happen in the real world!
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 04:16 PM
Yes it definitely worth doing... and if I know you Ben "Mr. Legal Dictionary" you will blitz it!!
Only issue I am finding now (having passed it this year) is trying to decide whether to put myself in a position that will perhaps help an earlier promotion (as in gaining evidence) or stick with what I know and do other things I want first.
By the way I will have the 2011 Blackstones books and 2011 Blackstone Q&A's for sale if anyone wants them - PM me... the 2012 equivalent will cost over £100. I reverted to using the Tom Barron Crammers plus CD's and I did a Checkmate 3 day course. I am not a big reader so the mass of information in Blackstones was just too much for me to take in.
If you read alot... just get stuck into Blackstones... if not then I would suggest you look for Police Pass... I found their CD's very good and I would go for their books rather than Tom Barrons and do their three day course if I was taking the test again. A colleague used just the Janes Crammer book... reading it for just two weeks and he managed to pass.
Would you recommend subscribing to the Blackstones website?
No I didn't have to do one but if you score a very low score (can't remmeber the percentage) you get hauled in front of the Inspector to explain why you haven't put any study in.
Was that a force thing? I read our SOP on it at work the other night, they said that we have to do a pre exam exam and if we pass it they will then put us in for the main one but if we fail, then we can decide if we wish to still do it and then pay for it ourselves and if its a pass the money will be refunded
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 07:22 AM
I was going to go for it this year but I'm going through the Adoption Process at the moment, so I wanted to focus on that (and the new addition) for a bit instead of locking myself away in my study revising. Best of luck to those going for it this year! 
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 01:53 PM
Was that a force thing? I read our SOP on it at work the other night, they said that we have to do a pre exam exam and if we pass it they will then put us in for the main one but if we fail, then we can decide if we wish to still do it and then pay for it ourselves and if its a pass the money will be refunded
Yeah I think it is a force thing as we don't have a pre-exam I guess it's just there to make sure people don't put in for it who have no intention of studying and thereby wasting money for the force.
Would you recommend subscribing to the Blackstones website?
The best thing I found by far was the Blackstones online Q&A, well worth the money.
#19
Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:00 PM
Does anyone know the application timescales to put yourself forward for the exam?
Has anything come out on AWARE yet (for those of us in the Met). I've been off work for over three weeks so won't have seen anything recently...
Has anything come out on AWARE yet (for those of us in the Met). I've been off work for over three weeks so won't have seen anything recently...
#20
Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:19 PM
Yeah it came out on friday...It's a bit confusing you have to apply via Met HR by the 7th Oct and they will also email before then to collect some ticky box thing which you have to hand in upstairs..I haven't done any yet.
#21
Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:28 PM
Well I'm back in on Saturday so I'll do it then..... I anticipate loads of admin when I come back in!
#24
Posted 25 September 2011 - 10:45 AM
Wow, I was in the same position this time last year and it has gone so quickly.
My advice - do it. The study and law/procedure you will learn as a result will make you a better PC regardless.
I have got my Part 2 at the end of October this year, getting close now
My advice - do it. The study and law/procedure you will learn as a result will make you a better PC regardless.
I have got my Part 2 at the end of October this year, getting close now
#25
Posted 25 September 2011 - 01:52 PM
Wow, I was in the same position this time last year and it has gone so quickly.
My advice - do it. The study and law/procedure you will learn as a result will make you a better PC regardless.
I have got my Part 2 at the end of October this year, getting close now
As I am Met, there has been no further word about the next stage for us... or whether it will continue using the Towbar method. I am seriously thinking of getting myself on an SNT or something to gain some evidence and also act up... I am getting no evidence working on a response team.
Edited by JackDaniels, 25 September 2011 - 09:48 PM.
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