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Section 165 Road Traffic Act

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Not as a serving police officer but as a MOP, you have the legislation to seize the keys under Section 165.

As you are seizing the motor vehicle, the definitions are in

Road Traffic Act 1988 c. 52

Part VII

Interpretation

Section 185

The definition includes

(2)In subsection (1) above “excepted articles†means any of the following: water, fuel, accumulators and other equipment used for the purpose of propulsion, loose tools and loose equipment.

Taken from RTA 1988 section 185

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Not as a serving police officer but as a MOP, you have the legislation to seize the keys under Section 165.

As you are seizing the motor vehicle, the definitions are in

Road Traffic Act 1988 c. 52

Part VII

Interpretation

Section 185

The definition includes

(2)In subsection (1) above "excepted articles" means any of the following: water, fuel, accumulators and other equipment used for the purpose of propulsion, loose tools and loose equipment.

Taken from RTA 1988 section 185

Read it again carefully.

The definition of "excepted articles" is only relevant in determining the weight of certain vehicles, including locomotives. In determining the weight you exclude water, fuel etc.

The definition of "motor vehicle" in section 185(1) makes no mention of keys. So section 185 is of no use.

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Tisi is a nickname for a very experienced traffic officer, who has starred in a popular police documentary series. Like I said, I'll look into it, I'm not willing to take your word as gospel as I would have done if you were "the real Tisi"

But I am the 'real' Tisi, at least to those that know me! There must be two real Tisis then. :aok:

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Not as a serving police officer but as a MOP, you have the legislation to seize the keys under Section 165.

As you are seizing the motor vehicle, the definitions are in

Road Traffic Act 1988 c. 52

Part VII

Interpretation

Section 185

The definition includes

(2)In subsection (1) above "excepted articles" means any of the following: water, fuel, accumulators and other equipment used for the purpose of propulsion, loose tools and loose equipment.

Taken from RTA 1988 section 185

As much as I would love to agree with you, the "excepted articles" are not relevant to a motor vehicle seizure under s165.

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