TheMoo replied to Techie1's topic in UK Policing NewsI'm not a legal expert, or a police officer (although I'm trying my damndest) but I will echo what yer man Techie said above: At least he got home safe. They found out where he was staying, made sure that people that might have been looking for him/worried about him knew, and made sure he was OK. He's drunk and he's vulnerable - it was a better outcome than the alternative, surely? Compared to the other week: some friends of mine on holiday in France came across a very drunk young lady (who may or may not have been assaulted - it depends who's telling the story), who couldn't describe where she was staying. The French police's attitude was that she could either go and stay with my friends (who had to go bring one of the lasses from our flat), or she could spend the night in the cells. She chose to stay with my friends - thankfully they're standup people and the lass stopped in the living room with her. But my point to the above is - the copper made the effort to get the guy home safe. And having had friends that haven't, in the past, I'm proud of a police force that does that. As an aside, a Question (for a copper) out of interest; would you be allowed to detain someone (who hadn't necessarily committed an offence, and not under the Mental Health Act) for their own safety - for example, the extremely drunk fellow above? What about if the hospital assessed them, determined there was no need to keep them, but they were still incapable of getting themselves home in one piece (e.g. might wander onto tracks, or topple over a bridge)?
I came across these videos on Youtube last night; they were part of a campaign by the Scottish Police Fed. a few years ago - some of you might even remember it. I've been thinking it through and I can't come up with an obvious answer (apart from the third one - pee/poo myself, hit the red button, spray, baton, pray...) 1. Car Crash, injured person, fuel leaking You arrive at the scene of an RTC. Vehicle is on its side, smoke/steam coming from the engine, and a 'liquid' leaking from the back. 1 injured person inside the car, bleeding from the head; you call it in to ask for help from ambulane/fire, try to reassure the man and see the large puddle of liquid that the car is in (probably fuel?) 2. Fight while protecting an arrestee You and a partner handcuff and arrest a man <Fred> for <apparently, assaulting a woman, Velma>. As you're standing outside with the detainee, a woman <Daphne> runs around the corner and pleads for help - her boyfriend is being assaulted around the corner. Your partner, seeing you have control of Fred, calls it in and asks Daphne to show him the way; you're left outside the pub. At this point, a friend of Velma's <we'll call her Scooby> starts trying to attack Fred, forcing you to get in between them. Your partner then radios urgently asking for help - he's apparently taking a kicking. 3. Partner stabbed, faced with man with a knife You enter a house after being called to a domestic, there's loud music blaring and you can't get the man's attention from behind him. After you turn back from turning the music down, you see your partner stabbed in the throat and the man standing opposite you with a knife. Obviously there are some...interesting...opinions on the Youtube comments. I think these are meant to be set up as Catch-22, damned-if-you-do... situations, but I was hoping that there might be opinions on how people would (hope to) handle these situations? Mod - apologies if this shows up as a double post.