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  1. Maybe there are alternatives - check out the hardware these guys carry:
  2. So, after the tragic events of this weekend, one of my colleagues asked me if I thought that routine arming of officers (even just sidearms) was on the way? Any thoughts? In a somewhat-related topic, but one that has been covered extensively elsewhere; one Special who was training us this weekend commented that he didn't think that Specials being issued Taser was too far away (his reasoning, the pain stops instantly, unlike PAVA, and it's non(/less)-injurious than a baton).
  3. I'd agree - I've just done the First Aid training and I was slightly shocked how short it was; I was expecting to see a bit more about spinal immobilisations etc, especially given attendance at car crashes etc. For background - I was a First Aider for SJA for I'm not entirely talking out my proverbial - and they're pretty good at FA training (for the most part). There's probably a happy medium to be found between a four day course and weekly sessions, and the one day, once a year. I would think that a 2 day course would easily cover most of the trauma that would be needed (with time for practice); and an agreement from the FA groups of SJA/RC to welcome Officers to their weekly sessions for practice/furthering their learning, without committing to doing duties for them?
  4. I would refer you to an excellent documentary on rural crime; Hot Fuzz
  5. If I'm honest, I'm probably more scared of horses than I am of most people... In seriousness though, while I think that Taser has a massive tactical value (and I'm straddling the line between MOP and cop at the moment), the thing that would concern me is that it would become the default response to situations, if it became a standard piece of kit. I think that, to an extent, that this is what has happened in the US; the default response (rightly or wrongly) to any threat is the firearm, and this comes at the expense of other tactical options. I saw quite a good documentary of US Police Chiefs visiting the UK to learn how our police handle situations because they're trying to find ways to de-escalate (Helpfully, it's on YT in full: But maybe my view will change in a couple of months time? Off-topic, but on the subject of horses, I just saw this:
  6. As someone who will (hopefully/probably) be policing a fairly remote, rural area, I would want a Taser as an option. Because how else am I meant to handle a heavily-legged horse? Does PAVA work on a horse?
  7. Thanks all. Mod - thanks for the warning, but the bigger crime with this pub is the landlord's poor selection of beers and terrible karaoke.
  8. How much do you (serving officers) fear reprisals? Have any of you experienced any/heard any stories? What sort of support do you get to protect yourself against them? (Bearing in mind, it's a small world...)
  9. Having finally got confirmation of training, I'm particularly looking forward to the OST week - I'm aware of the need to be fit for the job, and I wanted to ask: How do you like to stay fit? Are there any exercises that you'd recommend as particularly useful?
  10. There is a pub that has a sign outside, to the effect of: 'Representatives of Sky, BTSport are denied entry without prior appointment, by the order of Landlord.' A question that I have heard asked is, is that sign legally binding? If they were to enter, I'm guessing he can order them to leave; but if they were to find he was streaming something to his TVs, what would he/she be able to do with that information?
  11. I'm not a legal expert, or a police officer (although I'm trying my damndest) but I will echo what yer man Techie said above: At least he got home safe. They found out where he was staying, made sure that people that might have been looking for him/worried about him knew, and made sure he was OK. He's drunk and he's vulnerable - it was a better outcome than the alternative, surely? Compared to the other week: some friends of mine on holiday in France came across a very drunk young lady (who may or may not have been assaulted - it depends who's telling the story), who couldn't describe where she was staying. The French police's attitude was that she could either go and stay with my friends (who had to go bring one of the lasses from our flat), or she could spend the night in the cells. She chose to stay with my friends - thankfully they're standup people and the lass stopped in the living room with her. But my point to the above is - the copper made the effort to get the guy home safe. And having had friends that haven't, in the past, I'm proud of a police force that does that. As an aside, a Question (for a copper) out of interest; would you be allowed to detain someone (who hadn't necessarily committed an offence, and not under the Mental Health Act) for their own safety - for example, the extremely drunk fellow above? What about if the hospital assessed them, determined there was no need to keep them, but they were still incapable of getting themselves home in one piece (e.g. might wander onto tracks, or topple over a bridge)?
  12. I came across these videos on Youtube last night; they were part of a campaign by the Scottish Police Fed. a few years ago - some of you might even remember it. I've been thinking it through and I can't come up with an obvious answer (apart from the third one - pee/poo myself, hit the red button, spray, baton, pray...) 1. Car Crash, injured person, fuel leaking You arrive at the scene of an RTC. Vehicle is on its side, smoke/steam coming from the engine, and a 'liquid' leaking from the back. 1 injured person inside the car, bleeding from the head; you call it in to ask for help from ambulane/fire, try to reassure the man and see the large puddle of liquid that the car is in (probably fuel?) 2. Fight while protecting an arrestee You and a partner handcuff and arrest a man <Fred> for <apparently, assaulting a woman, Velma>. As you're standing outside with the detainee, a woman <Daphne> runs around the corner and pleads for help - her boyfriend is being assaulted around the corner. Your partner, seeing you have control of Fred, calls it in and asks Daphne to show him the way; you're left outside the pub. At this point, a friend of Velma's <we'll call her Scooby> starts trying to attack Fred, forcing you to get in between them. Your partner then radios urgently asking for help - he's apparently taking a kicking. 3. Partner stabbed, faced with man with a knife You enter a house after being called to a domestic, there's loud music blaring and you can't get the man's attention from behind him. After you turn back from turning the music down, you see your partner stabbed in the throat and the man standing opposite you with a knife. Obviously there are some...interesting...opinions on the Youtube comments. I think these are meant to be set up as Catch-22, damned-if-you-do... situations, but I was hoping that there might be opinions on how people would (hope to) handle these situations? Mod - apologies if this shows up as a double post.