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  1. When isn't it a slow news day with the media these days? I must say, there really cannot be a lot going on in the world if the Sun feel it necessary to write a report on 8 police officers having tea and bacon butties down south.... I would far rather PC's / Specials be seen out in public than hid away in some back room, the canteen in my station is still technically open, as in you can use it, but the hot food was done away with long ago, now all you've got to use is a small kitchen, microwave, TV, some vending machines, and some seating to eat the food you've bought in with you. I personally rarely eat on duty, however I don't see why as officers we should have any less right to eat than anyone else, it's a physically demanding job, sat at a desk one minute, next minute on a blue light run, then out on foot chasing someone up the road..... I used to work in an office based role with a bit of walking involved (some days I could walk 6 miles back and forth between the office and a classroom), even then I was given more or less guaranteed breaks, where and pretty much when I wanted them. I'm not sure how police officers eating is news.... they all do that every single day, as would most people.....
  2. I too have been recorded on at least one occasion, outside a nightclub at 1AM trying to stop two guys from fighting each other, one of them hand a gang of mates who did all they could to provoke the situation and in the end myself and another PC had to try and get them back by ourselves, (he was arrested for BOP at this point by a colleague), at this point they all whipped out their phones and started recording, it doesn't bother me at all to be honest. I myself have yet to be subject to a complaint, and I sincerely hope I do not get any as i'm going through the vetting process for joining as a regular, having passed a day 1 and day 2 recently, a complaint could make my conditional offer be withdrawn, which I would be appalled at. That said, we are now always forced to wear BWV, and I always make sure i've got it, as long as I keep my actions in check when dealing with people, the only one who has anything to worry about is them, any false allegations would be recorded and BWV can be replayed, and in effect show that you are completely innocent, personally I wish people that make false allegations were dealt with more robustly than just a warning, seems far too soft, without BWV you could potentially ruin an innocent PC's career as it's your word against theirs... Do I feel supported by the borough complaint wise? I'm sure there's people i can turn to for help, and to ask questions, i'm a part of police mutual and i'm sure they provide some sort of legal cover. Do I feel more protected with the likes of BWV ? Yes, most definitely.
  3. Maybe it's just me, you'll rarely ever catch me eating on shift! Longest shift so far was nearly 11 hours, on a Lucozade!
  4. Apologies, I was aware some of the terms were "MetSpeak" so to speak, but not quite that many of them!
  5. Good on you lad, you'll do fine, I remember my first shift... I refused a first arrest because I was nervous as hell, and worried about what the grounds for the arrest were, and the entire booking in process, in the end we didn't end up nicking the bloke but we accompanied him to hospital, which was my first ambulance ride with another special and the paramedics. Since then, I had an arrest stolen from me by a regular after a FTS pursuit (Fail To Stop), taser officers jumped out and ordered the driver out, I slapped the cuffs on and we lead him back to the van, I turned and said to my colleague "My first arrest!"... he then decided to immediately caution the suspect and read him the offences he was under arrest for (of which there were several, would have been a good arrest to get!), got back to the nick and he booked him in... I was gutted! If you get the opportunity to get an arrest, grab it, your colleagues should most definitely come in to custody with you if you ask them to and just to help you if you need a hand with the booking in procedure. Joining the Specials is the best thing i've ever done, it's made me realize how dull every other job i've ever had is, i'm now going through the recruitment process for the regulars, and just passed my Day 2 assessment, so now undergoing vetting and just need to get my CKP, then should get a training start date. When I first started I was very eager, I had to wait at least 2 months from attestation to my first shift, had to have multiple inductions as the Sergeants were never free for long enough to give me my full borough induction in one go.... which really delayed my first shift, if you're anything like I was, you'll be absolutely fine! Some tips for you: Ask plenty of questions, if you are unsure of anything, always ask. If you aren't sure what powers and procedures there are for a set thing, just ask someone more experienced, don't blag it or just guess as you could find yourself in trouble, all you have to do is ask. Write any important details down in your PNB, VRM of any vehicles you stop, description of suspects, contact details for witnesses, names of people wanted on recall, or WM (Whiskey Mike, or "Wanted Missing"), etc. Make sure you have a spare battery on you for your radio, I usually carry two spares when i'm out on shift, they have a habit of dying in just a couple of hours! Not sure if your force requires you to wear BWV (Body Worn video), if it does, make sure you don't forget it! My force requires me to wear it, even as a Special, without it you could "come a cropper" as the saying goes.. Take some chocolates/biscuits/sweets in with you if you can, usually goes down well! Try to talk to the public, or make the occasional funny remark, but obviously nothing you may consider even slightly offensive. Also, just for your info, here's some common slang terms you'll possibly hear, and what they mean: PNC - Police National Computer - Database of vehicles, people, you can run a name, or a vehicle registration plate or (I think!) the VIN number through it, to find if it's been reported LOS (Lost or Stolen), etc. MDT - Mobile Data Terminal - The small computers most police vehicles have, built into the centre console usually, some police vehicles do not have them fitted, so you'd run PNC/CAD checks over the radio, these computers allow to you view current assigned incidents (CADs), accept new CADs, display a map, show your route to a call, run names and vehicle plates through the PNC, and other functions. CAD - Computer Aided Dispatch, this is basically just an incident report, that is created by a CAD operator, who will then grade the call based on the information supplied by the informant, all the details of the call are usually on the CAD, i.e the informant's name and number, description of the incident, any suspects, time the call came in, who (which unit) is assigned, etc. LOS - As above, Lost or Stolen - Vehicle reported usually stolen, by an occupier of a home, although sometimes it can be spontaneous, on the street, had that happen to me before in the middle of a foot chase! (WM) Whiskey Mike - Wanted Missing, if someone is Whiskey Mike they are wanted for something, usually an offence or a string of offences, or it may just be for recall to prison. PNB - Pocket Notebook - I'm sure you know what that is! PND - Penalty Notice for Disorder - In my force these are narrow but very long (in terms of height) books, these are used for things such as fines for petty crimes. IRV (Incident Response Vehicle) - Response car, usually a mid-powered car, in many forces, Ford Focus estate or Vauxhall Astra estates. Panda Car - Usually a marked police car, but driven by those who are not trained to response driver level, although this varies from force to force. One I often hear a lot, usually shouted over the radio, "Suspects on"... means, "suspects on scene", usually you hear this when an officer is responding to a call, arrives, and finds suspects on scene who are about to make a run for it. CARRIER - Usually the long wheelbase vans, tend to be Mercedes Sprinter vans or similar, they are called carriers, because, as you may have guessed, they can carry usually up to about 16 officers. MISPER - Short for Missing, and Person, hence MISPER, these are normally always on an S Grade, usually you'll be called to attend the address of a relative, who has noticed their husband/partner/son/daughter etc missing, you or your colleague will take down the common details, description, any places they may go, anyone they know they may have gone to, have they done this before, can we check their room, etc, been to plenty of these myself, usually you'll end up taking the report and don't hear any more of it, they almost never turn up overnight in my experience. OSCAR/HOTEL/INDIA99 (varies by force) - Callsign for an NPAS helicopter, had one of these scrambled once to assist us during that FTS pursuit I mentioned earlier. TROJAN (ARV/ARU)- Callsign for a firearms vehicle with firearms officers, the guys with the guns, self explanatory, if you're calling for one of these the call is fairly serious in nature, trojan units are often called when a police vehicle carrying standard (unarmed) officers wants to stop a vehicle, runs it through the PNC on the MDT and sees it has a flag for "Firearms", rather than risking stopping it themselves they'll usually see if there's a Trojan unit in the area that can stop the vehicle. If you're in a vehicle, on patrol, these are the grades: I Grade - Immediate, usually warrants Blue lights and sirens, although I have been to I Grades before where the blue lights nor sirens have been used, the use of emergency equipment is really only to be used to aid getting to an incident quickly, in this particular instance traffic was very light, and we were 30 seconds away, no need for the lights or sirens, 15 minute response time. S Grade - Standard response time - up to an hour to attend - normal driving, no exceptions, per se, i've been a passenger in a response car where the driver responded to an S Grade with lights and sirens, although that is up to them to justify, but that rarely ever happens. There's others such as E grade and R? Grade... but those are very rare, i've been a special for 8 months and only heard a single E grade call over the radio. Sorry for the essay! Best of luck with it.
  6. I've noticed that all the regs seem to have a nice pocketbook holder, seemingly a nice sturdy strong backed holder for their PNB, we got issued ours in the specials during training but just got given the red book, I ended up buying a nice PVC holder off Patrolstore for mine, just the typical fold over type, nothing expensively fancy.
  7. As far as i'm aware, I recall being told during training we are NOT allowed to conduct, or "lead" interviews, however we may sit in on them.. and listen in. Pretty sure this is the case, and yes, I'm a special in the Met too, going through the recruitment process for the regs.
  8. I've got one of the old style ASP's, believe it's a Monadnock, the rubber (non gripped part) at the bottom is black and the main shaft is chrome/silver, one of the old friction lock batons, which I have to strike a lot of the time twice before it becomes "racked". Getting it retracted takes some doing too, bang it on the ground very hard and it's hit or miss, sometimes it goes in first time, others not. Flashback to hendon PSU level 3 training, all the others had the newer batons that extend and retract easily, we practised extending and retracting, they all retracted theirs and got back into position, meanwhile i was still crouched down whacking mine into the ground between the thumb and forefinger as taught during OST several times before it eventually retracted! I find it interesting those who attested both before me and after me have the newer style baton, mine was supposed to be forwarded to borough but seemingly never arrived, so I've had to use the MSC Inspector's spare baton which is the old style.
  9. Thank you stripe - very helpful. Yes, I have had my Day 1 AC (Assessment Centre) about 3 weeks ago, and passed, I have my day 2 in about a week's time. By training I assume you meant assessment centre? The training comes months after you pass both day 1 and day 2 unless you are IPS, then it's within a month or two, as for me going down the CKP route, as long as I pass Day 2 and obtain a CKP before training start date, I suspect my training start date will be around June/July.
  10. Possibly a stupid question, I've heard from several people (moreso when I had my assessment for the Specials in late 2015) and not my day 1 for new PC oddly enough, that the Met, alongside other forces can view your facebook/twitter photos even if you have them set to social media, although I can't see how this is possible unless they have some special back-end method.... I have all of my photos locked down, set as private, only viewable by those who are friends. In theory they should not be able to see these photos, however I feel almost like there's a way they can see every photo. Can anyone clarify or give any further info how deeply they dig into social media photos? Do they give it a quick once over or pick at it with a fine tooth comb? Does any of the above hold any truth at all? Secondly, I also have a horrid feeling about previous employment, I was dismissed from a job due to illness (x number of days off in about 3/4 months), although the company know they can't sack someone for being ill so have blamed it on my "poor performance", and "lack of dedication to the company", despite being ferried around all over the place (I covered 1,500 miles in two weeks) all at short notice, having the plan changed left right and centre and being forced into client sites where i'm really not suited, having made that clear and asked for assistance i'm basically told "there's no one that can help, they're all busy", then they come back to me at the end of the week and ask why i've done less work than the others (one being a junior working at a site he's been at for 2 years and knows the network structure very well, coupled with far easier tasks, the others being much more senior with 6-15 years in the IT industry on significantly higher wages, me on the other hand spending 1 day here, 2 days there, 2 days somewhere else, the next week 1 day here, 2 days there, 1 day somewhere else, and then finally another day somewhere else. In other words, they hired me, burdened me with massive workloads that were realistically unfeasible, made me cover 4 entire schools by myself 110 miles from home and anyone else in the company, then when 2 major issues arose at 2 different sites miles apart, I had to prioritise, so went to one school over the other, of course, said other school then complained and I get hauled into a meeting and told to "pull my socks up".... Basically company run on a shoestring, provides the IT services for 8 schools, with a total of 9 employees, only 6 of which are Technically minded/ trained. 2 at a minimum are ALWAYS at one site, 2 at the other, therefore leaving just 2 technically trained employees to cover the remaining 6! sites between them! The sites then have the audacity to moan about the technician assigned to them (on a pattern basis) not doing enough work, which is more the company's fault than mine, I then of course get in trouble as a result, despite asking for help and not getting it, and telling said company I am not experienced or suited at that site, the level of knowledge required is beyond mine. The point i'm making is I don't want one awful job at one appalling company to ruin my chances of joining, I have my day 2 soon and the words "Dismissal" on the form do not look good, especially when the vetting part says "Satisfactory" references, I have no choice but to put it down, If i don't and they find out, it will look like i'm trying to hide this information from them and goes against the core values of honesty and integrity.
  11. As a serving special in the Met, it's been mentioned we may be getting level 3 driver soon (basic), but that's it, the issue at the minute is the cost of paying for everyone to go on a response or pursuit driving course, until then there's no way we're getting anything beyond level 3 basic. Just waiting for my day 1 results from the D1 AC for the regs!
  12. I've done a total of about 6/7 shifts, compromising around 75 hours, as Special in the Met since late August when I had my first shift. I've yet to feel unsafe on duty, this is usually due to the fact i'm in a carrier with several other specials, and usually several regulars. As i'm not IPS when on any foot patrol i've done i'm always with either a regular IPS PC or several other specials. I know people are amazed that we police the streets with just a baton and CS for the majority, but the general attitude towards the police where I work is mainly good, i've had several instances where people come out of pubs and clubs and say "British police are the best in the world", and "we are so polite", of course, along with the obligatory "I wanted to join the police" people. My opinion may change, particularly once I complete PACS and SOROC and can then go onto IPS and will likely be doubled crewed with someone on a response team (which is exactly what i'm after), but until then I feel perfectly safe in a carrier or on foot with several of my colleagues nearby.
  13. Nothing really, I would personally arrest for the "prevent Disappearance" part of IDCOPPLAN.
  14. Thanks for that. Muggins over here failed his resit this morning by 1 f*cking question, on Disqual driving, some of the questions are very technical..... For instance, a question I had which I think I got wrong and led to me failing: "Bob is in his car which is being towed along by a tow truck, he is sat in the driver's seat, PC xyz sees him in the driver's seat and knows from the briefings he is a disqualified driver, does Bob commit the offence of driving whilst disqualified?" I chose yes to start with, then changed my mind as all the previous questions related to controlling propulsion for disqual driving, he can't control the propulsion of his car if the engine is off, regardless of whether or not he has steering wheel and brake pedal controls. The definition says steering wheel and brakes to be "driving", the questions were asking about driving but continually mentioned "propulsion".... I feel that was some kind of trick question which I fell for, and as a result has cost me big time. I've now got to recourse on the 29th april and start from BOP again, even though I only failed on Disqual driving despite having 4 sections to retake today. Two weeks til then and then two weeks of theory and one last chance at passing the KEE 3. As far as I understand If I fail that then i'll be asked to leave and my application will be over. I've emailed back asking if it's possible if I can just resit the exam again one final time, so far i've just happened to pick the wrong answer every time, it's not a case of not knowing enough to pass the exam. The first KEE 3 attempt there were a lot of 50/50 questions whereby I narrowed the correct answer down to 2 answers, and just happened to pick the wrong one in every section, the resit this morning I picked the wrong one in one single section and therefore failed. Got to be said I feel majorly depressed right now, to be expected I suppose.
  15. I did awfully bobcat, BOP, Drivers obligations, Driving whilst disqualified and public order, 2/5 on each of those, 3/5 or 4/5 on all the other sections which I passed. I feel it does have to be said that some of the exam questions are poorly worded, whereby some of the answers can be perceived in different ways by different people, in other words the answers are not exactly clear and as a result you could pick the answer interpreting it one way and it could in fact mean the other and therefore be wrong. Regardless, I'm re-sitting the 20 questions (5 questions in each section I failed) on Friday morning and then briefly going to stay to finish my Terrorism NCALT on the aware terminals at Sovereign Gate RLC as that NCALT can only be completed at a police station, other than that i'll have to nip to my local nick and hope they allow me to use theirs to complete them, i'll have had to have handed my student pass back in by then so not sure how they'd let me in, I have a warrant number but no shoulder numbers yet, I believe I get those on borough.