PC Will

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  • Birthday 12/04/95

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  1. BBC: Cyclist jailed over pedestrian death

    Ludicrous... how can this not be manslaughter? Manslaughter is accidental death, which is exactly what happened here. Also, why on earth are they so lenient to cyclists? Absolutely no doubt in my mind a car driver drives irresponsibly and kills someone they're going to jail for a number of years.
  2. first aid training

    I've just done and passed my ELS assessment as a new PC for the Met, I did the same during my time as a special. It is re-taught and re-assessed every 12 months, OST is re-taught and re-assessed every 6 months. ELS in the Met covers: Applying bandages and positions to seat casualty in depending on injury. Recovery position CPR Defib use The assessment goes as follows, you're called to a scene and someone is injured, they explain the injury and the location and you put them in the required position, whilst applying the bandage, you must also ask the following questions: S - Signs & Symptoms - checking for them A - Allergies, ask patient if they have any allergies M - Medication - Are they currently taking any medication for anything P - Past medical history - Any past medical history relevant to the injury L - Last ins and outs, when did they last eat/drink etc. E - Environment, checking for danger when you first arrive whilst gloving up. In the assessment I had you had to ask each of the questions before asking the staff (roleplaying a passer by as well as assessing) for an ambulance. The casualty then goes unconscious but is breathing, so you run through DRABC D - Danger, re-assess and check for any new danger. R - Response, bend down and shout into both ears "Open your eyes", pinch the shoulders and both ears to check for response A - Airway - open the mouth and check for no obstructions, tilt the head back and hold the chin up whilst keeping the mouth open B - Breathing, put your ear close to their mouth and count to ten listening for breathing, looking down towards their feet to see if their stomach rises and falls as per normal breathing. C - Circulation - Checking for any obvious blood matter, which would indicate injuries. You then had to update the passer by and tell them to update the ambulance. You're then checking for DOTS - running your hand over their body and checking the hand for any blood. Deformities Open Wounds Tenderness Swelling The patient then goes unconscious - at this point the person playing the victim leaves the room and a manikin is thrown towards you, immediately we had to run through DRABC again, and whilst withdrawing a faceshield from our pocket and starting chest compressions shout to the passer by and tell them to update the ambulance again, and also ask them to obtain a defib from around the corner on the wall. You're doing CPR for about 1/2 cycles before the roleplaying passer by (who in our case was actually also assessing us) returns with the defib, you're then expected to setup the defib correctly, whilst verbally running through the checks, no metals no liquids, no gases, no indirect or direct contact whilst the charge is building, when the machine shouts "Shock advised", you give a final "STAND CLEAR" holding a hand up before pressing the shock button, we then had to continue another round of CPR and deliver a second shock, using the same procedure verbalizing the checks each time. They then tell you to stop and run through the feedback whilst you pack the kit away, in our case we all passed. I am surprised to find that in some of the county forces here AED's (defibs) are an "add on".
  3. Self Defence Against a Home Intruder

    It's pretty simple really, in a nutshell: You must not carry a weapon around with you, and proclaim you're keeping it for self-defense in case you get attacked, that isn't permissible. You can pickup whatever is nearby to use as a weapon, knife, scaffolding pole, chair, table etc to use as a weapon but ONLY to defend yourself, and of course your actions must be reasonable. For instance arming yourself with a knife because there's some bloke just insulting or swearing at you is hardly reasonable, however, arming yourself with a knife when there's a bloke running at you with a machete in hand would likely be deemed perfectly reasonable, and justifiable.
  4. On another similarly related note... Would it be permissible for a PC to be a serving PC, but run a business on the side (for profit business that is)? I've always wanted to be the director of an IT firm but haven't had the funding to invest into it, my plan is to serve in the police and pay off all my debt, and either continue in it in a long career, or leave at the point where something life threatening happens, or I become too depressed/infuriated with the courts/etc and end up deciding it's not for me any longer. If I were to leave i'd start up an IT firm of some kind, probably doing phone and computer repairs as that's what I'm good at, i've done countless iPhone and laptop repairs, the only issue is it's never really profitable due to needing to buy parts in huge bulk quantities to get a low cost per unit price enough that you can charge a competitive price but remain profitable. Buying 100 new screens you aren't going to get them for anywhere near the price a larger company can get them for, and the purchase price you'd buy for would be the entire cost of the repair service they'd charge, thus no profit in it for you. I had always wondered if you could "run a business on the side" type thing, as I've read online forums and heard from other PC's who allegedly do side jobs here and there, bit of IT work, bit of handyman work etc to earn some extra cash as their salary from being a PC doesn't pay them enough. Of course it would need to be declared, but it would be for financial gain, and it would be a properly incorporated business, done to the book (I have been a company director before, believe it or not!).
  5. They define a "business interest" as partaking in an activity (of which gambling is specifically listed as one in the list) for "financial gain". People place bets (doing the lottery is a very popular and prime example) for financial gain, people do the lottery in the vain hope of winning - that's a financial gain.
  6. So the restriction is for financial interest in a gambling licence? i.e you are not restricted from partaking in minor gambling activities..... lottery etc. It's just odd the way it seems to be worded to suggest two completely different things in two documents from the same force... one implies it's fine but as long as it's not an interest for a licence, the other seems to suggest it's a disqualification for appointment if you partake in it, due to the way it's worded.
  7. I've been reading through my contract, and it states that business interests must be declared, of course this makes sense. The thing that doesn't make much sense to me, is from my understanding it seems police officers are not allowed to gamble (i.e play the lottery, place the odd bet etc), as this would come under "having a business interest" which is defined as "for financial gain". Would this be correct? In the information i've been given it also states that disqualification of appointment may be applicable for those who have an interest in obtaining or currently have a Gambling licence, therefore the two are stating different things. It would seem very harsh to not allow police officers to gamble any amount of money (no matter how small) on anything whatsoever, it seems too invasive. I appreciate that the force do not want employees that are going to become a risk financially through obtaining large debts due to a potential gambling issue, but by saying "no gambling" at all it seems as if they're tarring everyone with the same brush, in effect saying that anyone who gambles has an uncontrollable problem and will only lose money, and become a huge financial risk. For those wondering, I do have the occasional bet, and do the lottery every other week or so, but i'm not a problem gambler and don't blow my monthly earnings on it, it doesn't even come close to that. To my mind it's like saying "Police officers are not allowed to go to the pub" "or go clubbing", seemingly dictating what you can and can't do in your own spare time with the money you've worked for, as long as it is legal and reasonable I see no issue with it, of course i'd have issues with a serving PC blowing their wages on a gambling addiction and then becoming a large financial burden and increasing the risk of bribery, which would just undermine public confidence in the police.
  8. Despicable behaviour... angers me that these people join a disciplined professional body such as the police service and then abuse any sense of decency or courtesy whatsoever. That's leaving aside the gross misconduct in a public office.
  9. Advanced Driving

    Oh of course, I merely meant that I hadn't realised just how "off topic" we had gone as it was a topic about driving, and we had gone off on a tangent about recruitment!
  10. Advanced Driving

    Apologies... I have just noticed we were posting in the driving topic!
  11. Advanced Driving

    The specials one for me lasted around 20 minutes or so. For the regulars it's a bit odd, they ask you 4 questions, you have 5 minutes to answer each one, in detail, to demonstrate you have the key values and competencies they are after. In my interview the woman was literally sat there, she'd ask a question, and push a button and start the timer! She was also audio recording for some reason.... At one question I was mid-way through giving an answer when the timer went off, irritating to say the least, having to end an answer half way through explaining something!
  12. Advanced Driving

    Force dependent, most forces (barring about 2/3) required you to either be a special with IPS OR have a CKP, the met started using the CKP as a route to entry when they dropped the secondary language requirement for applicants, in around 2013/2014. Kent also used to require you to have the CKP, just before I completed mine they dropped this requirement and it was no longer listed on their website. I did consider transferring across to kent as with all the kerfuffle that went on during my process to join the regulars I had a bad feeling that it wouldn't end well, so was preparing for the worst and thinking if it goes belly up, i'd transfer my search score over to Kent (bearing in mind I live on the London/Kent border). In the Met there is no "final board interview", nor any "home visit" from an inspector... the only interview you have is at the day 1 assessment centre, that's it.
  13. Advanced Driving

    That's exactly why I joined the specials.... from a young age I wanted to be a Pilot or a PC, the cost of pilot training (in the region of £130k plus) made it prohibitively expensive, so I opted for the latter option, at one stage I had a brief spell where I wanted to be a paramedic but I feel uneasy when doing basic medical tasks such as taking pulses etc... so decided probably not the best career for me! I joined the specials as a "try before you buy" sort of thing, try it out, and see if I enjoyed it, which I most certainly do, now the prospect of being paid to do the same role is even more appealing, so I decided to jump on the bandwagon and apply, was successful, and start training in a few weeks. I've heard from a few people who were specials, but are now regulars, and say "don't join", they're constantly depressed from going to horrendous callouts, I suppose it's all down to the person, just need to remember that death is a part of life, sad as it is. Being a special helps, yes, but it most certainly does not guarantee you a place in training for the regulars, you still need to retake a day 1 and day 2 and prove that you are competent. When I had my day 1 for the specials, we had interviews, but no roleplays, for the regulars we had both interviews and a roleplay. Likewise for the specials the interview was a bit basic, whereas for the regulars they would probe further, so you'd give an answer and they'd say "Can you explain more detail how this fits in with x criteria?"... for instance, or "what do you mean by that?". Day 2 was almost identical, except for the regulars they took a sample of hair from me for SMT, whereas for the specials only 1 in 3 candidates were randomly selected to have it done, and it was done through a urine sample.
  14. Advanced Driving

    Whether you are CKP special to join regulars or IPS, you do not just "join the regulars", you resign from the MSC and join the regular force, so yes, you will have to go through the assessment process twice, I agree it's a bit tedious, but hey ho. I've been through the process twice, first time as a Special in October 2015, then this time round as a regular in February 2017 (was supposed to have my Day 1 in November 2016 but was unwell, that was the next date available). Day 1 SEARCH assessment scores are valid for 12 months, so if you pass your day 1 but don't make the grade with your applied to force, you can always transfer your application across to most other forces, although some forces have restrictions on this and don't allow this, those are usually specialist forces however.
  15. Advanced Driving

    Not where I am, if i'm with NTT/LPT (local disorder patrols we're either in 2 vans or a large carrier), if i'm with ERT (response) then i'm usually in a marked ford focus or vauxhall astra, although on one occasion I was paired up with a PC and put in the huge carrier, because we had run out of vehicles! 1) Driving courses numbers and chances of getting it vary from force to force, in Kent police I hear the chances are good, whereas the force I'm in (Met) the odds of getting a course are slim, I know some PC's who have been doing the job a number of years and still aren't even basic drivers, that is, they can't drive any police vehicle AT ALL! 3) Response courses again vary from force to force, some forces have their own training schools (like the Met's driving school at Hendon), other forces will outsource to approved partners who will provide blue light training for their officers, and then of course a final assessment, they are only supplied to those in the services, you can't just go out as a civvy and complete a blue light driving course, they're for those in authority only. 4) IPS just basically means you are a competent officer, who has demonstrated that they know how to complete the majority of things, i.e completing a lawful stop and search, premises search, lawful arrest, vehicle seizure, drugs seizure, etc, I've been in a year and nowhere near IPS, what makes it worse is in the Met you are required to demonstrate every single competency TWICE.... so one stop and search done, to standard, the PC's you're with will sign it off, then you need to get your inspector/supervisor to sign it off, then you need to complete another stop and search to the required standard and get that signed off to, the same applies to every other criteria in the book, they said at my attestation it can take up to 12-18 months to achieve. The quickest i've known anyone to become IPS from leaving training school is just under 4 months, although he really did cram shifts in and did 400 hours in the space of just 2 months, said person is now a regular alongside someone else I trained with as a special. Once you are IPS you have effectively "proven" your competence and so are trusted to do things such as driving, amongst some other things. Also, I would advise you to refrain from saying you are a police officer when you aren't, even being in training you're still a candidate, until you attest you're still a civilian, that said, don't feel I'm getting at you, just some advice, i'm sure you'll love it, joining as a special is the best thing I've ever done.