Sapor62

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  1. Right, First a bit of a back story. I'm a special attached to a regular team in Met Land and they're amazing, the skipper is an ex special, they let me get stuck in, they've taught me loads, I spent half my life with these guys/girls. I mentioned to the team how I thought their L2 Sliders/Eppauletes were quite nice (they all have them) and about 2 weeks later the skipper chucks me a pair with my shoulder number on them, I was grateful and put them on straight away. I mentioned I'm only L3 and he said it's not a problem, loads of people wear them as L3 simply because they look nicer and are easier to maintain (i.e: no changing broken numbers) I was on a specials local aid duty and a T/SPS gave me a massive bollocking for wearing them to the point I am now being asked to go in for a formal meeting to discuss my "uniform standards". I pride myself on my appearance and so do my regular team, they wouldn't let me leave the station dressed like sh*t. A) Is there a specific met policy that says you MUST be L2 to wear the eppauletes B) How can I go about handling this meeting (I'm quite nervous as I never get in bother/trouble) C) Is it REALLY that big a deal? Thanks.
  2. Becoming a Special whilst in sixth form

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  3. Advanced Driving

    Just to confirm, are you already a Police Officer or are you training to become a Police Officer? If you are in training you are not yet a Police Officer... 1) It's already difficult to get driving courses due to budget cuts since 2010 and lack of trainers, holding a manual license won't put you any further in the que as all Police Drivers must hold a manual license, so you're in the same boat as everyone else. It's also very unlikely you will get a driving course straight after training, most officers wait years, depending on force applied for. Met Police officers sometimes wait upwards of 6/7 years and that's regular police officers, not specials (This is for a response course - blue lights and sirens) 2) You won't be able to put any of your medical knowledge to use and will not be authorised to carry any extra equipment and if you did you could potentially be walking down a misconduct route, nearly all forces in the UK require you to undergo rigorous internal police medic training before you're allowed to carry medical items, the police medic course is one of the hardest courses to pass and has a massive failure rate as it is so demanding. 3) Driving courses carry over departments, if you're a response driver on response team you'll also remain one at traffic providing you have completed your refresher training. 4) Specials must complete IPS (Independent Patrol Status) before they can patrol alone, this can take anywhere from a few months to a couple of years, it all depends how much you put into it - driving courses are not part of initial training.
  4. Caution

    I've locked this topic as you don't have an active recruitment pass, I'm happy to answer your original question based on your caution but I feel by leaving this topic open we could delve further into recruitment queries and away from the original question at hand.
  5. Caution

    It doesn't matter if you remove it, the police will still see it when you go through vetting, you'll have to declare it just like anything else whether it's written off or not.
  6. There are a substantial amount of MSC Response drivers, there are even MSC Officers trained to an Advanced Level and maybe 5 or 6 who are also TPAC. There are hundreds of Basic Drivers in the MSC, the information provided is grossly out of date. Just go onto DS and under Directory put in one of the traffic garages and you'll nearly all of the MSC there are basic, a lot of them Response and some are Advanced or TPAC. The ban has been lifted on Specials doing driving courses, but no funding has been allocated as of yet for Borough based units, some funding has been made available for MSC on "Specialist" units like Traffic, SO, etc and it makes sense they get them first as they're likely to use the skill more than a borough officer.
  7. Covert Vest Cover

    I'm also a met special and I was given 2... they must have reduced it since I joined. Go with what your inspector says as they have line manager responsibility for you. You are given way more than enough points to order the amount of uniform you will need for a year. To put it into perspective: Shirts are 2 points, trousers are 2 points, a tie is 1 point, handcuffs are 5 points, PPK is 1 point... If you're only ordering what you need, you will absolutely not run out of points, most people rush to spend their remaining points before the financial year ends. The old system, where you had to order uniform through your supervisor was way worse - you had to justify every purchase and your line manager would have wanted to see the proof, it's better for everyone this way, take it from me.
  8. Covert Vest Cover

    When I joined I was given 2 pairs of trousers so I find it strange you were only given 1. Plain Clothes is a touchy subject for the MSC - there is no official rule it's just all local based. To get access to iBuy you'll need to submit a request on the user self service website thing
  9. Covert Vest Cover

    The covert being the overt story relates to the old met vest which they stopped issuing in 2015. Your new style one will not come with a covert cover. iBuy is basically eBay for the police, it's all internal and is accessed via SAP. You don't earn points, you are allocated them based on your job role and any specialist skills. For instance, a Level 2 PO Trained Officer will receive more than an officer without PO Training as they have more kit to purchase and more to maintain. Every bog standard Special is allocated 76 points per financial year (April-April), they don't carry over so spend them before April as you'll always only have 76 at 1 time maximum. PC's receive 140 as standard as their uniform allowance is higher than ours. Being Level 2 trained will give you approximately another 80 points. The pricing system is very flawed in that for instance, a handcuff key is 50 points but a set of new handcuffs with 2 keys is 5 points (I know, makes no sense...) You'll also occasionally see things priced at 99,999 points, all this means is the item is out of stock and someone can't be arsed to remove it. Any more advice needed, give me a shout.
  10. Covert Vest Cover

    Contact your local Shared Support office, they will order it and take the iBuy point from your account. For some reason there is no HR Trigger for Covert Vest Covers so it's not possible (yet) to order your own. Mine cost 3 points.
  11. insured or not

    This topic has been locked as it was off topic from the original debate, the thread looks very untidy and user(s) are digging/insulting each other.
  12. Hello

    Also, we've relaxed a lot now with the locking of posts - we now only lock them if there is a breach of site rules or the topic has been completely discussed to it's limits.
  13. Hello

    Welcome Good luck with your assessment!
  14. Asp's

    Do you also wear a cape and use a Police Call Box/Whistle instead of a PR?
  15. Met Police Recruitment Issues

    Posting the number on here wouldn't be appropriate but it is available on the intranet if you look up recruitment in the directory.
  16. FMOTL and such

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  17. i said what?

    Thread has been locked as despite my request for you to all get back on topic you haven't and instead want to argue over whether something is statute or not. This thread was not started with that question in mind and this thread now just looks messy and doesn't make much sense if you haven't been following it from the start.
  18. i said what?

    I urge the contributors of this thread to get back on topic and to resist from discussing other subject matters, this thread is becoming messy and hard to follow.
  19. offensive weapon or not

    This thread has gone grossly off topic, has been completely discussed to its limits and serves no purpose to be discussed any further. There are indirect comments of violence towards other forum members and insults being used. This topic has been locked and no further replies can be made.
  20. who says whats the law and what isnt

    This topic has been locked for various reasons: A) It has gone majorly off topic from the original post. B) PS.Com discourages discussing personal matters relating to prosecutions or complaints. C) I feel this thread is going to spiral out of control and/or cause offence to members.
  21. who says whats the law and what isnt

    Discretion is a wonderful tool, as is being reasonable. For instance, If I see a father with his young daughter cycling down an empty pavement I probably wouldn't ask them to cycle on the road as it's probably safer for them on the pavement and realistically a little girl and her dad aren't gonna do much damage cycling at 2MPH. The problems occur when the local Deliveroo guy is cycling at 30MPH down a busy main pavement on his super tricked up road bike... That's clearly dangerous and he'd be told to cycle on the road. You have to weigh up Pro's and Cons and Public Interest, if littering is a problem in my ward I will punish littering more severely than if it weren't. I know officers who move on homeless people begging, I don't - infact I don't think I ever have, unless they're being aggressive I see no problem in them asking for help, people set up JustGiving pages asking for free money all the time! Is it worth my time, is it that big of a deal, do the public care? All things to take into consideration.
  22. who says whats the law and what isnt

    Any advice on a specific area of law is from either currently-serving UK police officers, and is offered to the best of their ability, or from members of the public who are perhaps aspiring to be serving police officers and may not hold the necessary level of knowledge to provide such assistance or by any other member who may offer their opinion. Either way such advice can only be treated as an opinion and nothing more. Members should look for the Verified Members Badge that appears on the posters name as advice from members holding this badge are verified police employees. The information is based on their own individual experiences, expertise and training. It is stressed, however, that if any information or advice found in these forums is used by any person or organisation, then the respective police officer(s) and staff can not and will not take any responsibility for any outcome in any investigation in a criminal or civil enquiry. Any advice or opinion offered is to the best of the individuals knowledge and ability based on the information you have supplied, and we will stress that we will never be knowingly misleading or untruthful in content. [*]Please note, we do not offer advice or assistance in order to avoid penalties that you have incurred or maybe pending. [*]Such requests are deemed to be of an Operational nature and against our main Forum Rules. [*]You should always seek Legal Advice from a Qualified Solicitor in the event of any impending prosecutions or other involved legal matter. Administration Team Police Specials
  23. On behalf of the Staff Team here at PS.Com I have started this thread to remember our fallen colleague, PC Keith Palmer, who paid the ultimate sacrifice to protect our democracy and way of life. PC 4157U Keith Palmer - E.O.W: 22/03/2017. A true hero, we will remember him.
  24. Remembering PC Keith Palmer GM

    PC Keith Palmer had a truly wonderful send off, never before I have been so proud to do what I do. Over 5 thousand Police Officers from all over the world stood shoulder to shoulder to remember Keith and honour his life. At about 1700HRS Dismissals were given via GT over the PR, the following is the transmission from a PC in the control room: "All units. GT. Standby for dismissals. 4157U, you are dismissed with thanks. We will take it from here." PC Keith Palmer 4157U, Rest in peace brother.
  25. Pub banning entry to Sky/BT

    That's not a moral offence, it's a criminal offence.