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  1. I agree with IJ, its not that linear. For us the system is in all the way through, with week one a mixture of A-B and response towards the end of the week and then generally interspersed particularly if using out of county roads in weeks 2 and 3 for different or more challenging road layouts
  2. Green ticks across the board for Kent please.
  3. For us it starts with a briefing, self or as part of the team working the shift, a quick catch up with the duty skipper, getting a car and then relevant vehicle and equipment checks. Then its task dependant, if part of the shift then it would be a loosely defined patrol area taking in the Strategic Road Network (Motorways), Important Road Network (Significant A Roads) and any towns therein. Of course we respond to calls, mostly RTC's, ANPR hits, self generated / reactive work. If it's a tasking, ASB with vehicles, speed focus or other, then we focus primarily on that in the area we've chosen or are given. That could include using the SL700, Tintman, one of our Unmarked cars and any other equipment we carry. Of course, we'll respond to Immediate calls on the patch too, back up colleagues etc. Its a broad role which you can make of what you will. If you enjoy the crime side then RPU lends itself very nicely to that, with the capability to make a great impact on the travelling criminal because we are not as reactive to the radio and call volume that our area colleagues are. If you are more KSI reduction / education focused then again RPU is a great place to be to make an impact there. Hope that helps a little.
  4. I'd expect something around pro-active work on your strategic road network, focusing on reducing killed / serious injury collisions via active work on the fatal 4 - Drink / Drug driving, seatbelts, phones, speed. Also denying criminals the use of the road, call attendance, specifically serious rtc's and any other local priorities. As IJ alluded to, its rare to have officers new in service on RPU for a variety of reasons, but the aims are essentially the same. Ask questions, build relationships, dont get overly familiar, be respectful, take the rough with the smooth and get involved.
  5. The bandwagon effect. One does it and suddenly its a serious issue.
  6. In Kent we attended the modular equivalent of 'the traffic patrol course' which is 4 weeks and includes Test & Inspect, PG9, FIT testing, RIM training, more detailed work on DL's / Ins and more specific training around traffic legislation. The PG 9 element was more mechanically based and had detailed inputs into Braking systems, Suspension, Steering / Handling / Corrosion and a methodical, thorough process for checking a vehicle. I've never been over mechanically minded and so I had to work much harder than some of my colleagues who love tinkering with their cars etc. Its fair to say what it gives is a basic level playing field in order to be able to assess if something is immediate dangerous or not. The VOSA defects book you get with it is also a very useful guide for putting into words what you can see on the vehicle. All in all we were very well invested in on a par with our regular colleagues. A few of us are attending our HAZMAT training later this year too.
  7. If I've read it correctly its a little ambiguous as to tests Vs officers. Multiple failures would bring the number of officers in total down. In any case, 2% failure rate is pretty good. The bigger question is is it fit for purpose, but thats another thread.
  8. Compared to what we use to use DS is excellent.
  9. We have a 2 day first responder course coming up in September that many of the RPU team have been on.
  10. Not sure how long this list will actually be given the full requirement list.
  11. Two of our lads passed their Standard Response Motorcycle course today, a first for us in Kent, and wondering if across the UK? I'm aware there have been SC Solo's who had previously been regulars. In any case, massive congrats to the guys who worked really hard!
  12. Lets agree to disagree. For me its about your belief not PNC. It's not black and white. As an aside I had a HORT1 back from a local Met Station across the border, it was 4 months ago now though. Glad we have the option.
  13. An insurance certificate in itself is no guarantee of insurance, and so I would and do conduct checks if one is produced. WoW is a different issue completely from the one we're talking about. I have the option to use HORT1 so I have and do in specific circumstances. I've had no issues at all. This is not a one size fits all solution. Now more than ever we are scrutinised for proportionality in what we do. Hence this is a tool and under the right circumstances I use it.
  14. They've not been withdrawn from us, and if I felt it was a difficult position I'd seize it, if I felt it was more likely to be insured I wouldn't. PNC is simply an indicator, any number of issues can arise with PNC, including but not limited to, typo's, failure of updates, insuffient info from the insurer, fleet policy issues etc. Hence the extra digging and not just relying on PNC.
  15. I'd note the date the car was first registered to him, and see whether that correlates to an insurance renewal date of today, which may lend more credibility to what he's saying at the roadside and his assertion that he took out / renewed his insurance today. The reality to this type of situation is that it comes down to your belief, and there are many aspects to how that belief is influenced and informed. If I was inclined to believe him, then I'd issue a HORT1 to close the loop. If I wasn't then I'd seize it. Based on what I've read, I'd be asking a few more questions before coming to a conclusion. In any case in our force, our duty skipper has to sign off on all seizures anyway - regular or special.