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    If they're chasing you for miles after you run a red light, you should probably stop, if we're honest. You're just wasting everyone's time at that point. And it's also a bad example for you to use - it's not victimless. I've seen crashes, I've seen cyclists taken out and my sister's best friend was killed by a driver than ran a red light. And if you knock a pregnant woman to steal her phone, I don't think I know any officers in my station that 'can't be bothered with that'.
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    Apologies... I have just noticed we were posting in the driving topic!
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    You have literally just described my specials interview, i was told at recruitment this part is the same......
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    My SC interview lasted nearly an hour and a half. Came out feeling like i'd been through the mill. Most people seem to have had 30 minutes and done. No roleplays though.
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    Yeah, every force is a little bit different. Our regs are tied up heavily with ongoing long term protests at a particular site. So they're stretched thin. SCs are being used to fill gaps where possible. I'm about 65% through my PDP, in 3 months of activity. Need toto hit it a bit harder, but as I'm not allowed to go out with RPU, do custody or in fact anything but IR and set events it's going to be difficult.
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    You will however howl that what a copper does is unlawful, or wrong, or just not right. What we need to do with these people is long, boring custodial sentences. We also need to be able to chase them regardless, with an agreement on paper that they can still be pursued if they take their lids off. We also need to be able to stinger them, or just swipe them off with a baton strike if we feel confident in doing. All without having to worry that PSD or the IPCC won't hang us out on to dry.
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    And again....pontifications without thought or evidence.... You are just snapping up any perceived opportunity to criticise the Police in the furtherance of your own grievances. Pursuing helmetless criminals frequently gets them killed. The public and media have been very clear they don't want us doing this- it gets portrayed as 16 year old boy chased to his death by Police etc. Then the officer gets personally prosecuted and convicted. Someone has rationalised that motorists killing pedal cyclists leads to a lot more deaths than helmetless muggers cause which are fraught with risks that the public have forbidden us from taking. In other words don't complain at the Police when political interference is the issue.
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    It has the basics, the directory suggests messaging is in the pipeline.
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    There are a substantial amount of MSC Response drivers, there are even MSC Officers trained to an Advanced Level and maybe 5 or 6 who are also TPAC. There are hundreds of Basic Drivers in the MSC, the information provided is grossly out of date. Just go onto DS and under Directory put in one of the traffic garages and you'll nearly all of the MSC there are basic, a lot of them Response and some are Advanced or TPAC. The ban has been lifted on Specials doing driving courses, but no funding has been allocated as of yet for Borough based units, some funding has been made available for MSC on "Specialist" units like Traffic, SO, etc and it makes sense they get them first as they're likely to use the skill more than a borough officer.
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    I had my first shift yesterday! Amazing. Being the passenger for a Grade 1 call and all the traffic stopping for you as you whizz by with sirens on- biggest grin on my face- until I realised we were heading to a domestic, and then I started wee-ing myself a bit.... (I jest....) First arrest in the afternoon of a not particularly nice bloke, wanted on warrant and in breach of his bail conditions. Caught after a footchase and cuffs applied!
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    Good on you lad, you'll do fine, I remember my first shift... I refused a first arrest because I was nervous as hell, and worried about what the grounds for the arrest were, and the entire booking in process, in the end we didn't end up nicking the bloke but we accompanied him to hospital, which was my first ambulance ride with another special and the paramedics. Since then, I had an arrest stolen from me by a regular after a FTS pursuit (Fail To Stop), taser officers jumped out and ordered the driver out, I slapped the cuffs on and we lead him back to the van, I turned and said to my colleague "My first arrest!"... he then decided to immediately caution the suspect and read him the offences he was under arrest for (of which there were several, would have been a good arrest to get!), got back to the nick and he booked him in... I was gutted! If you get the opportunity to get an arrest, grab it, your colleagues should most definitely come in to custody with you if you ask them to and just to help you if you need a hand with the booking in procedure. Joining the Specials is the best thing i've ever done, it's made me realize how dull every other job i've ever had is, i'm now going through the recruitment process for the regulars, and just passed my Day 2 assessment, so now undergoing vetting and just need to get my CKP, then should get a training start date. When I first started I was very eager, I had to wait at least 2 months from attestation to my first shift, had to have multiple inductions as the Sergeants were never free for long enough to give me my full borough induction in one go.... which really delayed my first shift, if you're anything like I was, you'll be absolutely fine! Some tips for you: Ask plenty of questions, if you are unsure of anything, always ask. If you aren't sure what powers and procedures there are for a set thing, just ask someone more experienced, don't blag it or just guess as you could find yourself in trouble, all you have to do is ask. Write any important details down in your PNB, VRM of any vehicles you stop, description of suspects, contact details for witnesses, names of people wanted on recall, or WM (Whiskey Mike, or "Wanted Missing"), etc. Make sure you have a spare battery on you for your radio, I usually carry two spares when i'm out on shift, they have a habit of dying in just a couple of hours! Not sure if your force requires you to wear BWV (Body Worn video), if it does, make sure you don't forget it! My force requires me to wear it, even as a Special, without it you could "come a cropper" as the saying goes.. Take some chocolates/biscuits/sweets in with you if you can, usually goes down well! Try to talk to the public, or make the occasional funny remark, but obviously nothing you may consider even slightly offensive. Also, just for your info, here's some common slang terms you'll possibly hear, and what they mean: PNC - Police National Computer - Database of vehicles, people, you can run a name, or a vehicle registration plate or (I think!) the VIN number through it, to find if it's been reported LOS (Lost or Stolen), etc. MDT - Mobile Data Terminal - The small computers most police vehicles have, built into the centre console usually, some police vehicles do not have them fitted, so you'd run PNC/CAD checks over the radio, these computers allow to you view current assigned incidents (CADs), accept new CADs, display a map, show your route to a call, run names and vehicle plates through the PNC, and other functions. CAD - Computer Aided Dispatch, this is basically just an incident report, that is created by a CAD operator, who will then grade the call based on the information supplied by the informant, all the details of the call are usually on the CAD, i.e the informant's name and number, description of the incident, any suspects, time the call came in, who (which unit) is assigned, etc. LOS - As above, Lost or Stolen - Vehicle reported usually stolen, by an occupier of a home, although sometimes it can be spontaneous, on the street, had that happen to me before in the middle of a foot chase! (WM) Whiskey Mike - Wanted Missing, if someone is Whiskey Mike they are wanted for something, usually an offence or a string of offences, or it may just be for recall to prison. PNB - Pocket Notebook - I'm sure you know what that is! PND - Penalty Notice for Disorder - In my force these are narrow but very long (in terms of height) books, these are used for things such as fines for petty crimes. IRV (Incident Response Vehicle) - Response car, usually a mid-powered car, in many forces, Ford Focus estate or Vauxhall Astra estates. Panda Car - Usually a marked police car, but driven by those who are not trained to response driver level, although this varies from force to force. One I often hear a lot, usually shouted over the radio, "Suspects on"... means, "suspects on scene", usually you hear this when an officer is responding to a call, arrives, and finds suspects on scene who are about to make a run for it. CARRIER - Usually the long wheelbase vans, tend to be Mercedes Sprinter vans or similar, they are called carriers, because, as you may have guessed, they can carry usually up to about 16 officers. MISPER - Short for Missing, and Person, hence MISPER, these are normally always on an S Grade, usually you'll be called to attend the address of a relative, who has noticed their husband/partner/son/daughter etc missing, you or your colleague will take down the common details, description, any places they may go, anyone they know they may have gone to, have they done this before, can we check their room, etc, been to plenty of these myself, usually you'll end up taking the report and don't hear any more of it, they almost never turn up overnight in my experience. OSCAR/HOTEL/INDIA99 (varies by force) - Callsign for an NPAS helicopter, had one of these scrambled once to assist us during that FTS pursuit I mentioned earlier. TROJAN (ARV/ARU)- Callsign for a firearms vehicle with firearms officers, the guys with the guns, self explanatory, if you're calling for one of these the call is fairly serious in nature, trojan units are often called when a police vehicle carrying standard (unarmed) officers wants to stop a vehicle, runs it through the PNC on the MDT and sees it has a flag for "Firearms", rather than risking stopping it themselves they'll usually see if there's a Trojan unit in the area that can stop the vehicle. If you're in a vehicle, on patrol, these are the grades: I Grade - Immediate, usually warrants Blue lights and sirens, although I have been to I Grades before where the blue lights nor sirens have been used, the use of emergency equipment is really only to be used to aid getting to an incident quickly, in this particular instance traffic was very light, and we were 30 seconds away, no need for the lights or sirens, 15 minute response time. S Grade - Standard response time - up to an hour to attend - normal driving, no exceptions, per se, i've been a passenger in a response car where the driver responded to an S Grade with lights and sirens, although that is up to them to justify, but that rarely ever happens. There's others such as E grade and R? Grade... but those are very rare, i've been a special for 8 months and only heard a single E grade call over the radio. Sorry for the essay! Best of luck with it.
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    Hi folks, so its been exactly 1 year and 5 months since I posted this on the forum and I thought i'd give you a quick update... I have now been signed off as independent and completed all my portfolio which i'm pleased about! I'm still enjoying it.. it is quite nice to go in, help out and do my bit and then be able to come home and know that I have made some difference to peoples lives! I guess thats the beauty of what we do, hey?!
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    I read it as 22yrs in and an inspector?... but if not... fair play sir, fair play
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    This gets asked a lot and on numerous threads. What can I expect and how can I be prepared for my journey into the Special constabulary? Well first of all congratulations you got this far, many who apply never get to where you are. So you got your start date your keen as mustard to get on with the training and get to your first shift. As you can imagine you have an awful lot to learn while you’re at HQ training, can you make it any easier on yourself, because some of the modules can be quite intense and a lot of law to get your heads around. But the answer is yes. On your first module you will get given some homework (yes homework) some will need to be completed before the next module and some before the relevant module. Make sure that you do the homework or pre-reads. Time is a precious commodity at HQ, we have so much to cover in such a short space of time. By completing your pre-reads you will have the knowledge before you start your sessions/modules/ classes. Once in the classroom we can develop that knowledge into a full understanding. For example Theft, we all know in essence what theft is, but it’s not that simple when it comes to policing, you need to fully understand the definition of theft and it’s points to prove to know if a theft has taken place. You will see it’s not that cut and dry but with the understanding and training we give you it will all make sense. Points to prove are included in the offence definition, which we will explain and show you. But don’t worry at this stage. Also the police caution if someone said explain it to me could you? Well good news is once you have had that training session you will be able to. So what can you do between now and your start date. I will list some things you should do or be considering and some things that are useful to know and learn for your benefit, and to aid your learning. Footwear, start thinking about your footwear, there are numerous websites out there that can provide you with boots. Find pair that is comfortable, the best pair of boots are the ones that the most comfortable so find what’s best for you. Currently you will be reimbursed up to £75 for your boots, so keep your receipt you will be shown how to claim your expenses once you start. If you don’t have black boots at least wear black shoes while training and for the love of god don’t wear white socks, make sure they are black or Navy blue at the least. Kit bag again there are numerous sites out there that can provide you with kit bags. You can always use a sports holdall or a cheap rucksack to keep the cost down. You will be given the majority of your kit on your first day, so a kit bag is ideal for storage and moving it around. You will also need to bring all your kit with you every weekend. The PPE weekend is a physical weekend so a relative good level of fitness would be of an advantage, the fitter you are the easier it is. There are numerous drills to complete and under pressure. But by the end of the weekend those that were unfit were clearly visible. Its not imperative but like I said makes it easier for you. Most people couldn’t move after the weekend and those that were fit were all fine apart from the odd bruise. You will be handcuffed a number of times, you will experience the effects of the CS spray, you will be thrown on the floor and wrapped up with limb restraints. Like I said it is physical but probably the module everyone enjoys the most I loved it! There will also be numerous of role plays and scenarios to complete, I suggest you get stuck into these and volunteer that way you will get the most out of it. You’re in an appropriate learning environment so have a go and learn from your mistake that’s what works for me anyway. The feedback you get will always been done in a way that gets you to think of what you can do differently, you will be surprised how much you learn and sinks in. Don’t worry it’s not as bad as it sounds the role-plays are always great fun. So things to learn: The cautions the when and now caution don’t worry or concern yourself too much about the 2 or when they are used, we will explain all that to you. You will need to know this for your training not just when you’re out on district. So please learn them. Definitions, you should all know the definition of theft, this is a biggie! Again don’t concern yourself too much about understanding that’s what we are there for. You should also know criminal damage, robbery, burglary, and public order offences for Section 5, 4a and 4. Out of all these theft is the one you want to remember verbatim. The others would be useful and very beneficial, and some trainers insist you know them. Section 3 of the criminal law act is another definition you will need to know word perfect, and by the end of PPE you will as it is very important again this will be explained to you on your PPE weekend. I wouldn’t concern yourself with more than that at this stage, as that will give you a healthy head start. I just ask on behalf of the other trainers that you’re never late, that you do your pre-reads. Please get actively involved each session you will get more out of it. Please don’t be afraid to ask questions, better to look a fool for five minutes by asking a question than looking a fool for life as your afraid to ask. Good luck and enjoy your journey :0) Ian.
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    What I want as a career special: To go to jobs independently (as I already do) To crew with regulars and feel part of a specific team (as I already do) Feel integrated into the regular teams and feel respected (as I already do to a good degree) To be supported with training so that I can be as close to a PC's competence as I possibly can (still got a way to go there) To have opportunities to specialize but still have the above four points (which is why I don't want to go to RPU) To be supported and expected to grow and develop rather than getting to IPS and then that being it. (This reiterated the previous two points). Get to the point where I can be as operationally deployable as a PC