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    Equipment: Lots of pens Lost of disposable gloves Tissues Mints A torch A spare radio battery Pocket note book Packet of crisps/few chocolate bars Small change Shake your spray before heading out ​Do: Talk Ask questions Praise Challenge Listen attentively Show initiative and write down VRM's, DOBs/contact details Be confident Have fear Know your phonetic alphabet Engage with MoPs, suspects, victims Engage with regulars - ask what you can do to help Get involved and stuck in without being asked Have fun Don't: Stand there like a spare part at a wedding looking for a dance with an Undateable Wait to be asked if you want to do something - TELL them what you want to do and don't delay it Be cocky Be prim and proper and offended easily Think you know what you're doing Ignore other anyone else in the nick Be afraid to ask if you're not sure Forget your call sign or etiquette Get involved in conversation about the Government and join in with their rants. You'll just get tired and bored of it, unless you're that way inclined then by all means join in and take a couple of years off your life because you've stressed yourself out Constantly be fiddling with your knob - it drains your juice. Try and get to a comfortable volume setting from the outset. Personality Have one
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    l I would suggest you go and read up a little bit about mental health... there is no point discussing this matter with you whilst you see the world in absolute black and white and have no concept of the complexities of mental health patients.
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    Damian, There are likely ex-specials turned regular here. If you feel your training is the same as theirs I would suggest you speak to them- You may be surprised. With regard to you/anyone else needing TASER, I type this having in the last hour returned from a reported knife fight between males and yes I arrived first. I don't have a TASER either, nor have I ever had one- I am not authorised to carry. I am in exactly the same boat as everyone else here with the difference that I Police a minimum of 40hrs a week and I go to almost all the most violent jobs on my patch which is a very wide urban area with a number of active OCG's, and I do just fine without one- I have other tactical options and have been doing the job for 22 years without the TASER option in my repertoire. TASER is a situational tool. It is not much use in the middle of a fight- I wonder what situations you think a TASER would have stopped the brawl that ensued... Most regulars don't have them and exposure for exposure to danger, by hours per week and days per year and likelihood of assignment,for a regular I continue to feel is likely to far exceed that even of the most highly houred Special. I don't expect Constables or even most Sergeants to think beyond what tools they feel would assist them in doing their jobs. The public perception issue though IS one of huge strategic importance to us as an organisation. I personally am fairly blaise about TASERS and their usage- (they approximate to batons in my mind if not in the continuum of force) and as such I have little to no reservations about most/all officers being issued with them. However, I do realise that our relationship with the public might be compromised if our TASER deployments went through the roof due to general issue and the public equated it with routine arming. While the public remain unsupportive we walk a very narrow line in increasing what is perceived our use of force capability. That on the other hand does concern me as the good will of the public is worth taking some strategic risks for. You may perceive the "argument" as "wearing thin", but with respect it is not for you to say. That is a strategic command decision and you are a community based Special Constable with a tactical view of policing limited to your experience. One of the things that does make me a little twitchy is officers that really seem to WANT Taser. Then they start talking about taking it home. Then the situations that they think it would have helped, and it doesn't fit with my view of when it's appropriate to use..... I start wondering why... Your comment about using it/having it to prevent a brawl- Again it makes me think ...No not yet.... Not for that officer, and one of the things I do is decide who on my teams gets trained and who doesn't. An officer that sees TASER as one of a number of tactical options and calmly draws it/holsters it as appropriate to the unfolding situation is the one I write up for it. The officer that sees it as a defence to violence less so. I'm afraid I take our relationship with the public very seriously. When I dictate to officers about when and how they use force, those instructions are orders. I give those instructions with the benefit of many years of experience of dealing with some very, very violent individuals combined with my sense of duty to the public we protect. Those orders are backed up with the seniority of my rank and the acceptance of my vicarious responsibility for the actions of my team. Politely put- If you really want a TASER, please don't tell me/us public perception doesn't matter or argue about what you should be using it for, because someone like me will stop you ever getting one. Until you allow us to teach you and you can be seen to have the cool maturity to stick to that training under pressure you won't be given one. Meanwhile your peers around you who are willing to learn will be trained and given that extra tactical option to use when they have need of it. Kind Regards HMS
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    I'd take the focus away from the patient by lifting my hi vis jacket over my head and running up and down the pavement whilst squawking like a parrot and shouting "who's a pretty boy then".
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    Dear All, Any help/advice you can give me with this will be greatly appreciated. I am a uniformed regular Inspector currently running two frontline intervention teams across two CSP's. I have a number of specials who frequently work alongside our shift and I am very grateful for the support they give. However, I most frequently see them on public order shifts which is absolutely fine- (it's nice to have the whole team in the van as it brings down social barriers and builds good working relationships). Other than doing this and where possible trying to involve specials in arrests and team jobs etc.... What suggestions do you have for me? What can I do to make specials enjoy their duty time more? Are there more things I can do to make specials feel like a substantial part of the team? What do you secretly hope an Inspector will do when you join a team? In short- I want specials to want to be on my team. I want them to feel productive and happy when doing their tours of duty and I want them to feel they are contributing as much as possible and gathering any evidence they might want to gather. I know about response courses and taser etc etc, but I have in actuality little control over this- These issues are largely a force policy rather than a local management issue. My post is more about what can I do and the regulars on my team do to make the special contingent feel happy and productive. Any answers don't need to be nice-I want the best and worst of specials experiences-Essentially I want to learn from your good and bad experiences and your opinions. Kind Regards HMS
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    Thank you all- I have taken note of all the suggestions you gave and will make use of them. Kind Regards HMS
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    The Communications Act? I would suggest S.127.As I explained he would have committed the offence when he sent the pictures on via a communication. I am afraid regardless of your opinions, I think the offence was committed, the CPS thought the offence was committed and the presiding court thought the offence had been committed and ultimately so did the defendant. In fact pretty much everyone but you?
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    There are a substantial amount of MSC Response drivers, there are even MSC Officers trained to an Advanced Level and maybe 5 or 6 who are also TPAC. There are hundreds of Basic Drivers in the MSC, the information provided is grossly out of date. Just go onto DS and under Directory put in one of the traffic garages and you'll nearly all of the MSC there are basic, a lot of them Response and some are Advanced or TPAC. The ban has been lifted on Specials doing driving courses, but no funding has been allocated as of yet for Borough based units, some funding has been made available for MSC on "Specialist" units like Traffic, SO, etc and it makes sense they get them first as they're likely to use the skill more than a borough officer.
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    More tasers for regular colleagues would be welcome.
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    Warrant card, proximity card, driving license, police fed membership card, debit card, gym member card and McDonald's coffee bean thing. It doubles up as my wallet and is always in my pocket. I can feel when it's not there, it's a part of me now.
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    There will always be differing viewpoints. I would argue that its about the individual not the role so to speak. I have worked with and still do, Specials who possess those core communications skills and composed mindsets, have fifteen, twenty plus years of experience. Although its not my decision I would feel more than comfortable they are the type of officer who would be up to the relevant competency level required if and when Taser makes it way out to us. Every situation has to be judged on it merits, no two situations will ever be the same. We should also remember that as long as we employ human beings either Regular or Special, and no matter how well trained, the fallibility of being human will always mean mistakes can happen. Experience has different meanings too. A 19 year old year one probationer may well have more core policing experience than a ten year, 40 year old Special. But will they have the street skills, self knowledge, communication skills and composure in the same situation? I'd argue potentially not. We should be mindful there is no one size fits all decision here. Personally, we need to remind the public that the expectations made of officers, (in highly stressful, fast developing and dynamic situations with people who don't and won't play by the rules that is their job), if applied to the every day member of the publics occupation where you said if mistakes were made would lead to suspicion, suspension and potentially dismissal would cause most people to find something else to do. Mistakes can and will happen. To expect anything else is naive. Training to a high level can mitigate and but it can't permanently prevent. Risk aversion is not a strategy.
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    I would refer you to an excellent documentary on rural crime; Hot Fuzz
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    What happens is a supervisor monitors the mention of a suspected terrorist and starts asking lots of questions. The supervisor will conduct a risk assessment and probably direct enquiries to be made with the person filming asking them what their intentions are. If it is known from the outset that it isn't a terrorist, it's just some oddball with a Police fetish etc they will likely be ignored. If being ignored leads to them upping the ante (this is about attention seeking after all) and they start getting very close to the officer to provoke a reaction, the officer may begin to feel threatened and harassed and that may lead to the suspicion of an offence by the officer concerned. Any person who gets off on making another person feel frightened or hunted for their own enjoyment is a very unpleasant individual. Direct threats have been made by ISIS toward military and police personnel. Acting in a way whereby a soldier or Police Officer might be made to think they are being stalked for personal amusement is in my opinion sick. Looking out for hostile reconnaissance to prevent another Lee Rigby has been very much at the fore of every officers mind. The recent loss of PC Keith Palmer should be enough evidence alone for you to understand why people doing what you do endangers officers. Regardless of what you think of the Police, I hope you can see why this is pretty reprehensible.
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    its a expired warrant card from 1987 from a defunct agency found via Google I'm not part of the CSAS I was in a previous job and did the training course for it - in my current role I carry a WARRANT CARD and I ask you to remove you jumped up comment as if I posted something along the lines of just another know it all plod I'd be banned from this site
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    Dutysheet have finally released an app for mobiles. To get it, go to your app/google play store and download DutySheet. To use it, go to your Dutysheet on a PC and head to My Details. Scroll down to 'Enable Mobile App', save changes and reload the page. Then click 'Add Device' and follow the instructions (account name is your shoulder number). Enjoy!
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    Works ok. Messages would be nice, but can't have everything at once.
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    I am aware that there are some snobby regulars..... and yes where ever possible I already try to make sure the Special Officer goes where he/she will have the most productive and useful time while still being enjoyable. A lot of that obviously is influenced by who they are working with Organisationally I and other managers are trying to mainstream specials and bring them closer to comparability to regulars so there is a degree of trying to break down those barriers. I do think though with the single crewing policy most regulars are glad of an extra pair of hands at jobs and the reassurance of someone else being there when it all goes wrong doesn't hurt either. I hope the officers that you are referring to are gradually a dying breed....
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    40 last January! Old Man here. I've been on a couple of shifts where they had nobody to drive the Fun Bus because the carrier driver was busy elsewhere. So I assume It'll also be appreciated by the regs, as they always look dissapointed. Compliant stop would be handy too, but risk/reward tells me that I don't want blues. Too much hassle as an SC.
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    Didn't realise you were old enough to qualify for carriers! Agree with blue runs. We don't need it really. Many a time I've been first on scene at grade 1's, even in an unmarked corsa. We have good people in comms though who know where we are better than we do...! I can't wait for compliant stops to come in though. That should be part of the A-B training.
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    Am I weird that as a Special I don't want Blue Light driving? It's a perishable skill, and I only do 30ish hours a month. It could be 2-3 months between runs, and don't feel I could be kept sharp enough to be safe. If I was doing a few every week I'd be fine, but I'm not. I've had a discussion this weekend with my SCI, and he's got me down now for Carriers as they're desperately short. I don't mind that as I'll get vans too. I think that is enough unless you're going to be doing multiple shifts per week.
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    It's funny, every new generation of office says exactly the same thing. And an urgent assistance is always the example used. This is precisely the opposite of what you should do. If, and I say that in the circumstances you manage not to have a collision or be the cause of one, you get to the job any responsible officer should be calling up traffic and ensuring you are stuck on. The likely outcome being a gross misconduct allegation for disobeying orders and instructions and a key piece of evidence will be the "statement of expectation for a basic driver" you would have signed. Also, such public and blatant disregard for disobeying the rules is not very professional, is arbitrary as why just disobey for this type of call - there are others where police are urgently needed on scene and finally, if you follow my good advice and get on a course, upon its completion you too will undoubtedly agree with my assertion. Put simply, do not use exemptions when not trained how to, ever, for any reasons.
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    The up-and-coming courses are the FREC courses (First Response Emergency Care). These courses start at Level 3, which is equivalent to the FPOS course, all the way to Level 6 which is Paramedic level.
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    Well there you go. Go and tell a terrorist what size vehicle they need to breach a Varioguard barrier. Sent from my PLK-L01 using Tapatalk
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    I'd agree - I've just done the First Aid training and I was slightly shocked how short it was; I was expecting to see a bit more about spinal immobilisations etc, especially given attendance at car crashes etc. For background - I was a First Aider for SJA for I'm not entirely talking out my proverbial - and they're pretty good at FA training (for the most part). There's probably a happy medium to be found between a four day course and weekly sessions, and the one day, once a year. I would think that a 2 day course would easily cover most of the trauma that would be needed (with time for practice); and an agreement from the FA groups of SJA/RC to welcome Officers to their weekly sessions for practice/furthering their learning, without committing to doing duties for them?
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    As specials we need to remember that we are a force multiplier for the police, this is because that whilst the core focus of the police is fighting crime and protecting people the protecting people is still important, the police is relied upon more and more as a result of other support services feeling the burden of budget cuts and operational restrictions. And whilst volume crime is the bread and butter of policing in an urban area, sadly as a result of the mental health crisis being faced by the over burdened and struggling NHS(1) services such as the police and ambulance often are left to pick up the pieces. As front line officers its difficult to understand why people are allowed to call in to 999 and control put a grade 1 or 2 concern for welfare in for male/female. Well lets start with the college of policing code of ethics: Accountability Integrity Openness Fairness Leadership Respect Honesty Objectivity Selflessness. I have highlighted the ones in bold that apply here. Now lets look at the grading and call handling guidelines. In the UK the Police control use what is called the NSIR: national standards for incident reporting(2) which supplements the ACPO Graded response Standards (3). As per the college of policing standards for police call handling: An emergency contact encompasses circumstances where an incident is reported to the police which is taking place and in which there is, or is likely to be a risk of: • Danger to life • Use, or immediate threat of use, of violence • Serious injury to a person and/or • Serious damage to property The Ambulance in the UK have dispatchers trained and certified by the National Academy of Emergency Medical Dispatch and follow the MPDS : Medical priority dispatch system which was developed in the US (3). As per the Principles of Emergency Medical dispatch 14th Edition Protocol 25 - Psychiatric/Abnormal Behavior/Suicide Attempt: Axiom 1 of Protocol 25 states: Behavioral emergency patients (at any level of consciousness) are considered to be a potential risk to themselves or others. So we see a continuing theme here, the key here being if the caller is a potential risk to themselves or others then its a concern for public welfare which falls within the remit of the police. It is easy to criticize the decision of the control room operator or call handler but we must remember whilst we see the actual reality when we attend a job, we don't necessarily hear what the call handler or dispatcher hears over the phone, s/he has to risk assess and allocate the job appropriately based on the scraps of information they are being provided. Regarding not having sufficient training to respond to a concern or someone who has MN issues is not an excuse to not be able to use common sense, there are plenty of websites that offer useful advice such as Dementia Friends, MIND charity(4) etc. The key focus here being that you assess the welfare needs of that person and using the NDM and your tools (pnc, systems),common sense and professional judgement, does that person have: 1. Capacity 2. Has or likely to commit Self Harm 3. Likely to commit or talked about suicide 4. Do they pose a risk to themselves or the public? If they do then you have the powers under Section 136 of the mental health act. As suggested by others on the thread, mental illness and mental health is a very large subject and its very topical and emotive so a grassroots level understanding of the subject is very important for all front line emergency service personnel. Remember that it's okay to not be okay and sometimes people don't know who to turn to and often it is the police or allied emergency services that are the first to respond to that cry for help. If anyone still is unsure about why concerns for welfare need police attendance, then this is something they should bring up with their supervision who can point them back to the the COE, NDM and force policy. Remember that a IDVA can fill a DASH in on a domestic, just like cops can, so why do cops attend all domestics even if it's verbal only as a minimum of grade 2? Is it just to do a DASH?, or is to discharge the duty of care? Now finally coming to the issue of CFR training for specials, all I will say here is that a 1 day EFAW (5) course for front line emergency service works is inadequate, this is my personal opinion. I personally felt uncomfortable just going out with just EFAW so I invested in a First Person on Scene(6) Course to give me a little more confidence when dealing with any medical calls or when I am "first on scene". I strongly advocate extra first aid training for police officers, pcso's and specials this is because we can be a force multiplier for the ambulance, this is not about policing or plastic paramedics, this is about doing whats best for the public. I can say that the £350 i paid out of my own pocket helped me practically when me and a regular colleague were the first to attend a scene where a member of the public had collapsed outside a night club and was convulsing, due to night time traffic the ambulance was sometime away. During this time, I worked with my colleague to keep the females airway open and remembering what I was taught I was able to ask her friends about SAMPLE and was able to give this as a handover to the paramedics when they arrived on the scene who were genuinely thankful that i had managed to capture the basics even though they would do it all over again anyway. Finally, as we have seen with Westminster, Manchester and London Bridge, specials do work in a risky environment and heaven forbid but you may be called on to assist at an incident where you may be outside your comfort zone, so equipping yourself with extra knowledge is never a bad thing. A charity called Citizen aid produce a wonderful pocket sized guide on how to give first aid at terrorism incidents, the app and physical guide are only £1.99 and available from here: http://citizenaid.org/ 1. Major concern was also highlighted that not enough CCGs had a clear and fully funded plan for crisis care, as less than a third (31.6%) had a fully funded plan, whilst 10.5% had no agreed plan or funding set out at all – echoing the findings of a similar report that charity the NSPCC issued in 2016.) 2. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-national-standard-for-incident-recording-nsir-counting-rules 3. http://library.college.police.uk/docs/homeoffice/call_handling_standards.pdf 3. http://www.emergencydispatch.org/ResourcesEDS 4. https://www.mind.org.uk/workplace/training-consultancy/ 5. http://www.sja.org.uk/sja/training-courses/first-aid-courses/emergency-first-aid-at-work.aspx 6. http://qualifications.pearson.com/en/qualifications/healthcare-support/fpos.html
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    Stabs officer 3 times in the abdomen... "cleared of attempted murder".. what a joke of a justice system this has become... how on earth could anyone argue repeatedly stabbing someone isn't "attempted murder"? He's not a surgeon... or a paramedic.. he doesn't know where all the veins or arteries are...... hit one of those the PC's likely dead within minutes.
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    A police officer has been jailed for lying to protect his brother after a car crash in east London. PC Miladur Khan, 30, of the East Area Command Unit, was sentenced to six months’ imprisonment at Southwark Crown Court on Tuesday after pleading guilty to perverting the course of justice. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/policeman-jailed-for-lying-to-protect-his-brother-after-crash-a3553176.html
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    It's people like this that do the service, and effort of everyone else a huge discredit....
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    Warrant card (obvs!), prox card, a tenner, McDonald's coffee cards, debit card if I don't have cash to put in.
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    Fantastic idea, I am a special myself and work in the NHS for my day job. Soon to be GMP regular.
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    some of them are good advice, some are somewhat over stated and a few just nonsense and the journalist should be ashamed. for instance not having you sat nav fixed to the dash is not an offence. Holding it in your hand might be, but having it propped up somewhere is fine
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    At first glance there would seen to be no intention to permanently deprive either. Not bothering to make the effort to give someone else's property back (where there is no onus to do so) isn't the same as making a conscious decision to keep hold of it.
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    I like John Sutherland's writing anyway, and have this on preorder. He was one person whos blog and, articles I was told to read.
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    We had a special with a line under his number tell someone in our canteen to call him sarge. On his first day on our team. He was laughed at so hard he left the shift after about an hour and hasn't returned since. It was magical.
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    This really isn't going to go anywhere other than round in circles so I'm closing the topic. I suspect this is for personal reasons too...
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    Again I'd agree. I wouldn't like to say "All specials shouldn't have TASERS" because there will be some officers out there who have a wealth of skills that they bring to the table that mean they would be fine. I saw some great community policing work being done in Iraq by soldiers. If one of those guys or girls can coolly deal with angry people and choose the most appropriate response in Tikrit, why not in the UK as a Special with a taser or even a sidearm if it comes to it. Each candidate should be assessed on their own individual merits in my view. Beaker's point is entirely valid and says a lot about his/her maturity and wider view. -Knowing you have a skills gap is normally one step away from filling it. But it would be wrong to not take into account there are people who have relevant skills from outside the Police and Specials who have developed themselves over time and acquired them. Beaker for example doesn't want a TASER because he thinks he lacks skill A....I would presume he is, having recognised that, going to cultivate it. So when he does why shouldn't I write him up for TASER training if there is a place? Just my thoughts, but for me it's all about the skillset and personal behaviours. The SC tag on the shoulder is largely irrelevant. HMS
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/DurhamSCChief/status/802265234526400512 Seems that Durham are soon to switch from bars to chevrons and pips for specials holding the rank of sergeant and above. As per the photo - link above to SC Chief Officer's twitter - the SC crown features as well. The SC crown only features on rank eppaulettes and won't be on SC eppaulettes for "integration" reasons. Although I personally wouldn't want to wear chevrons or stripes as a special, I like the sound of some other things that Durham are doing, such as requiring you to sit exams for promotion similar to the regulars. Not so sure I actually agree with special ranks full stop - I would like to see a regular sergeant managing their division's specials, but that's a different story. I do not agree, however, with what sounds like plans to allow specials to hold the same powers of the equivalent regular ranks, i.e. A special inspector being able to authorise sec. 18 searches. I'm also absolutely against any special being able to supervise/ manage regular officers. To sum it up: development = good, but let's be realistic about what the special constabulary is - no special is going to be as experienced as a regular officer, by virtue that they do the job day in day out, not just two shifts a week. thoughts?
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    My two penneth would be leave it as it is unless we also move to parity with the requirements in law and policy and procedure with the regulars for those ranks. Do the exams, pass them, demonstrate capability alongside regular colleagues. Even then, I think in certain areas we could be on a sticky wicket. I've commented on another thread on the challenges of Specials and the rank / grade structure. I'm not against modernisation, I'm fortunate to work in a force that is very much driving an agenda around utilising Specials in every increasing ways and specialisms. Personally I'd feel uncomfortable wearing stripes because other than the grade, and people leadership side from outside the force, I don't feel I'm on a par with regular skippers in the job. But, as I said, just my view.
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    We all start off feeling the same way. Don't worry about it but DO remember when you are the guy that's been there ages and the new officer is struggling to find his/her place and make them welcome.
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    Hold on, when has her mum come into it? Can we just have a scenario in full without little extra bits being dropped in as-and-when? It's turning into an Agatha Christie novel.
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    Develop a Survey Monkey and just ask them (and ask their regulars a similar set of questions too) And then publish the results?
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    You dont need to worry about alienating yourself from them. They are already so detached from reality you will not have a problem. Sent from my PLK-L01 using Tapatalk
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    It's also highly unlikely that a S/Insp will be allowed to authorise a S. 18 as that would require a change in legislation. Special Inspector is a grade, not a rank, all specials regardless of grade, hold the rank of Constable. In short - it's too much effort to allow a Special Inspector to authorise a S. 18
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    Fire and Ambo, normally "boss in almost a casual way"
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    Can't see any Chief saying no to it if the money is there.