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    As per the rules of our forum, this section is not intended for members of the public to seek advice on individual issues.
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    If I have any advice for Specials or new regulars that I think is particularly useful it's this- Don't get into something you won't finish. Don't tell someone to pick up litter they dropped unless you are willing to write the ticket. Don't start policing bad behaviour unless you see an offence and are willing to deal with it. Spitting on the floor? Do you really want to be left wondering what to do next if the little oik tells you to foxtrot Oscar ? You want to be that special that brought a 15 year old boy into a busy custody suite because he wouldn't wipe up his spit? Or would you rather be the officer that backed down in public and didn't act after making an ultimatum ? Pick your fights. Not only will it stop you coming off as officious you will also make a fool of yourself a lot less.
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    We could argue all day about whether an offence has been committed there's plenty of variables which I won't go into. Bottom line - is it in the public interest? It's going to be more cost effective and less of a strain on police resources if you just get a cleaner to clean up the spit and tell the customer to not return to the shop. Obviously if someone were to spit on the floor in front of me then I would be having stern words because I think spitting in general is disgusting anyway, but I wouldn't expect to be called to such a scenario and I suspect the call taker would tell the caller police won't attend anyway or it would be a slow time response as there's much more pressing matters to attend to.
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    You stop making up fantasy scenarios in order to try and get a serving officer to say something incriminating.
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    Mine initial consisted of "got a driving license?" Sure, you can drive. Followed by the compliant stop training and I tell no word of a lie; the DT got out a road roll mat with some toy police cars and demonstrated on the roll mat how to pull vehicles over...
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    It's nice to be called Sir occasionally But if I'm being serious about something, don't call me Shirley.
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    The last thing officers want when they're dealing with a situation is someone filming in their faces or trying to interject. The officers are there to deal with a job and they need to deal with it appropriately and correctly. This is hard enough given the nature of the work officers deal with, without having to worry about someone else adding to their concerns and potentially causing issues. I would also advise against not to just "join up" with officers and follow them around. By all means go and talk and engage with them, but following them around is just weird and yes, it's an uneasy feeling. How would you feel if you were in a group of your friends and somebody whom you don't know is constantly following you around and filming you? It'd certainly make me feel uncomfortable. If your goal is to engage with police and see how they work, do it the way your local sergeant mentioned. Apply for a ride along and that way you can ask all the questions about situations and see why they deal with things in those ways. You won't be allowed to film however.
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    Absolutely fine! The versions of the MTH800 that your neighbour has will not be able to access the airwave system and subsequently won't be able to access any police talkgroups! J
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    I think the bar system was working, as those officers only Supervise for "welfare isssues"
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    Just a little update for all those who have made very helpful suggestions - I've registered my interest for this position within my police force https://do-it.org/opportunities/d3a8d59c-bb7e-4674-bd45-8d5e6b23e52c and can only cross my fingers that I'll be able to reapply at a later date thanks again guys!
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    He got a ticket 5 years ago and he's still banging-on about it. He'll never get that hour back.
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    being spat at quite possibly, but a person of reasonable fitness isn't going to be harressed or alarmed and certainly not distressed by the sight of someone spitting. It not the cost of cleaning that's the issue with crim damage, though that will be neglagble, as they have cleaners wandering around with buckets, who are already being paid, it the loss of use and its seems unnecessary to shut down an entire walkway to drag a mop over a bit of spital? The whole senario is a bit far fetched to be honest , round here security would escort him out, I cant think anyone would call the police over such a triffeling matter, that's if anyone took the slightest notice in the first place. Walking round the vomiting drunks takes most of your attention
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    indeed, I think most people get called a lot, but people who actually want help will generally be polite and then it doesn't really matter as there is a genuine reason for them speaking to you
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    Is Shirley your weekend name? @Techie1
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    If the search requires the removal of a hat, that is more than jacket outer coat and gloves and you should conduct the search somewhere out of the sight of the public within the guidelines PACE lays out.
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    A bit of a strange question if I say so myself but I would probably like to be called: Officer mr police man mr police man officer now what officers do get called is an entirely different topic Which we will not get into
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    Personally, I think the key issue is whether the MoP involved with the police deserves to have their interaction with the police filmed and published online. I can think of situations where such knowledge and films, in the hands of other members of an individual's close families and "friends" would be extremely embarrassing, and potentially damaging to relationships. You may not know or be aware of the impact to a MoP's life such a published film may have, irrespective of the desire you have of holding the police to account. Consider a married MoP who is drunk and becomes "romantically" involved with another woman in his drunken state. He kicks off and the police get involved robustly, with you filming to keep the police accountable. Other family members see him and the "other woman", of whom you are unaware, on camera, involved with each other and the police and now there is a broken family. This is a trite example, and full of flaws, but the potential is out there for huge damage to be caused to relationships and families. Consider another MoP who ends up being filmed whilst robustly engaging with the Police for what ever reason. They agree to you publishing the interaction on Social Media because they feel agreaved. Six months later, the MoP applys for a job and HR, as they are often doing now, search Social Media and spot the MoP kicking off with the police. No Job. At the time the MoP did not consider giving you permission would affect his future life, but now it has. There are many ways by which you could and should keep the police accountable for their actions. Filming situations involving MoPs is probably not the best. The unforseen consequences for MoPs have the potential to be far-reaching.
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    I note that nobody has answered your question so the power is given to a constable in or out of uniform and as the office of constable apples when off and on duty. There seems no reason why a constable couldn't so do on hos weekend off if he deemed it necessary, so as other have said. It may not be the wisest thing. Pcso ate only pcsos when on duty so no its also worth noting that the power to seize tobacco products come from the children and young persons act 1933 , which has a)amended the age limit to 18 and b) only allows confiscation if the child is seen smoking not just in possession, a technicality that is sometimes forgotten
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    in my Experiance most people are uneasy if you stick a camera in their face even more so if you then follow them around all evening. If you did that to a mop you would quite likely get punched or arrested cor harressment. Now whilst I support your right to film where and what you will.following the police round as a hobby seems a bit obsessive to me. And will ost likely get you negative attention, which I assume is one of your objectives as you can then put it on your channel. If you really want advice,,, get yourselve a girlfriend( or boyfriend) and find something more enjoyable to do with your Saturday nights.
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    Another topic where MPotter is trying to bate police officers into making bad decisions, just so his YouTube hits go up... No Police Officer is ever going to call that up on the radio, or would want you to get hurt. Police officers are here to protect you and everyone- why would you antagonize people trying to do a good job!
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    From ACPO regarding PCSO's carrying Batons. "A baton is an offensive weapon by virtue of Section 1 (1) Prevention of Crime Act 1953, being specifically made for causing injury. Possession of such an item is not an offence where lawful authority exists. It is considered that possession of a baton by a PCSO on duty, where authorised by a Chief Officer, will therefore be lawful." Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
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    Why worry about such a minor issue off duty. Sent from my PLK-L01 using Tapatalk
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    Why would you even want to? If you're that concerned about youths drinking, call 101.
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    While I don't have particular issue with this, I'd like to know there reasoning behind the continuation of the ban. Certainly, on my team around about half of the PCs are still in probation, and of those that aren't only two carry taser. It maybe just seems that we're excluding a significant proportion of our officers from taser.
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    which is which legislation ? everything only applies where applicable and not where it isn't ???????
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    A roofing torch burns fuel at it's threshold with the 'outside' air as a mixture of the two gases. A propelling flamethrower, in the miltary style, forces a mixture of liquid fuel and propellant under pressure and it burns and continues to burn away from the equipment. By your reckoning, my combi boiler is a flamethrower.
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    A roofing torch is different to a gas/liquid propelling flame thrower.
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    This is simply not offence, unless one of the parties makes a complaint or the injuries are so disproportionate to the sport that they amount to an assault, however unless its GBH (And even then in very limited circumstances) I would suggest as a combat sport its expected. Being in a park has no relevance, martial arts displays are in the public as are boxing matches.
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    you think blood is disgusting? Weeing on a war memorial. Is outrageous because it's desecration of a war memorial' which apparently causes outrage . Someone bleeeding from the ear is not likely to cause the public to become outraged. Ergo its not outraging public decency its hard to give constuctive. Feedback when your point is so silly
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    Yea, wake them gently from their kip in the motorway services.
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    A couple of points from me, as I recall code G came out before street bail was available to the Met at least,so there must have been a need for it otherwise it wouldn't have been instigated. Secondly I always told them that it was only a 'technical' arrest to facilitate as the name suggests bail conditions, and more importantly to me arrange a time for an interview. On the positive side to the suspect, it started the pace clock and as it generated a custody number made it easier for them to arrange for a solicitor to attend. In my opinion it was a great tool which I used maybe 3-4 times in my last year and I had a stash f them in my bag, I was called up several times to assist officers who needed one on the street.
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    Bit more complex than that. If the aircraft is British Registered (Reg is G-****): E&W(&S) law applies at ALL times on board Not British Registered, Departing E&W(&S): E&W(&S) law applies only whilst the aircraft is on the ground in UK or above land over E&W(&S). Not British Registered, Inbound to E&W(&S): E&W(&S) law applies onboard as soon as boarding commences.
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    Personally if you'd seen the things my uniform has come into contact with the last thing you'd want to do is touch me. There isn't enough Dettol in the world...
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    Yet another failure of 'care in the community'. If she kicks him out though, she'll loose his carer and benefit money so I reckon she'll have him back and you'll be knocking on that front door many more times. Did he/they have social workers? This sounds like their problem.
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    section him. Leave it to the NHS and social services to come up with a (wholly inadequate) solution in the morning.