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  2. We were told that "Drunk an Incapable" needs to be assessed. If you have NO other choice then you can bring them to custody, but you might as well pick up your cake fine on the way in for custody officers.
  3. You keep pushing RIPA, and you're pushing it hard. Read chapter one, all of it if you like, but pay particular attention to Para 6. The circumstances in which a person makes an interception of a communication in the course of its transmission by means of a private telecommunication system are such that his conduct is excluded from criminal liability under subsection (2) if— (a)he is a person with a right to control the operation or the use of the system; or (b)he has the express or implied consent of such a person to make the interception. So yeah, if the guy said he could, then he could.
  5. I'm not a legal expert, or a police officer (although I'm trying my damndest) but I will echo what yer man Techie said above: At least he got home safe. They found out where he was staying, made sure that people that might have been looking for him/worried about him knew, and made sure he was OK. He's drunk and he's vulnerable - it was a better outcome than the alternative, surely? Compared to the other week: some friends of mine on holiday in France came across a very drunk young lady (who may or may not have been assaulted - it depends who's telling the story), who couldn't describe where she was staying. The French police's attitude was that she could either go and stay with my friends (who had to go bring one of the lasses from our flat), or she could spend the night in the cells. She chose to stay with my friends - thankfully they're standup people and the lass stopped in the living room with her. But my point to the above is - the copper made the effort to get the guy home safe. And having had friends that haven't, in the past, I'm proud of a police force that does that. As an aside, a Question (for a copper) out of interest; would you be allowed to detain someone (who hadn't necessarily committed an offence, and not under the Mental Health Act) for their own safety - for example, the extremely drunk fellow above? What about if the hospital assessed them, determined there was no need to keep them, but they were still incapable of getting themselves home in one piece (e.g. might wander onto tracks, or topple over a bridge)?
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  7. Four dead in Westminster attack 22 March 2017 From the section UK Four people, including police officer and man believed to be an attacker, killed near UK Parliament, police confirm This breaking news story is being updated and more details will be published shortly. Please refresh the page for the fullest version. If you want to receive Breaking News alerts via email, or on a smartphone or tablet via the BBC News App then details on how to do so are available on this help page. You can also follow @BBCBreaking on Twitter to get the latest alerts. View the full article
  8. Sorry, not being a cop I don't know what Code 4 is or what the word "alacrity" means. Can you explain please?
  9. Update from BBC police officer has now passed away
  10. Westminster attack 'We saw a policeman down on the floor' 22 March 2017 Image gallery In pictures: 'Terrorist incident' at Westminster 22 March 2017 'I heard shouting and saw people bundled away' 22 March 2017 Video Aerial views of Houses of Parliament 22 March 2017 A woman has died on Westminster Bridge in central London in what police are treating as a terrorist incident. A police officer was also stabbed in the nearby Houses of Parliament by an attacker, who was shot by police. The attacker had struck several pedestrians as he drove a car on the bridge, before crashing into railings. Police said there were "a number of casualties... including police officers" and a "full counter-terrorism inquiry" was under way. Prime Minister Theresa May is to chair a meeting of the government's emergency Cobra committee later. Met Police Commander BJ Harrington said he was unable to confirm details of casualties. Speaking outside Scotland Yard he urged the public to stay away from the area around Westminster to allow emergency services access. London Ambulance said it had treated at least 10 people on Westminster Bridge. Live coverage Eyewitness accounts How the news broke Video: Aftermath on the bridge 'Terror incident': In pictures Junior doctor Colleen Anderson from St Thomas' Hospital confirmed the death of the woman and said a number of other people were hurt - some with "catastrophic" injuries. She said she also treated a police officer in his 30s with a head injury, who had been taken to King's College Hospital. She said the woman had died at the scene.There were people across the bridge. There were some with minor injuries, some catastrophic," she added. "Some had injuries they could walk away from or who have life-changing injuries. There were maybe a dozen [injured]." MPs said they had heard three or four gunshots and staff inside Parliament were told to stay inside their offices. Commons Leader David Lidington told MPs the "alleged assailant was shot by armed police". Shortly after the incident, a Downing Street source confirmed that Mrs May was safe. The prime minister was seen being ushered into a silver Jaguar car as what sounded like gunfire rang out at Parliament during the incident. Tom Peck, political editor for the Independent, tweeted: "There was a loud bang. Screams. Commotion. Then the sound of gunshots. Armed police everywhere." Press Association political editor Andrew Woodcock witnessed the scenes unfolding from his office window overlooking New Palace Yard. "I heard shouts and screams from outside and looked out, and there was a group of maybe 40 or 50 people running round the corner from Bridge Street into Parliament Square. "They appeared to be running away from something. "As the group arrived at the Carriage Gates, where policemen are posted at the security entrance, a man suddenly ran out of the crowd and into the yard. "He seemed to be holding up a long kitchen knife. "I heard what sounded like shots - I think about three of them - and then the next thing I knew there were two people lying on the ground and others running to help them. "Armed police were quickly on the scene and I heard them shouting to people to get out of the yard." 'Mowed down' In eye witness, Radoslaw Sikorski, a senior fellow at Harvard's Centre for European Studies, posted a video to Twitter showing people lying injured in the road on Westminster Bridge. He wrote: "A car on Westminster Bridge has just mowed down at least 5 people." Scotland Yard said it was called to a firearms incident on the bridge amid reports of several people injured. Transport for London said Westminster underground station has been shut at the police's request, and buses diverted. Mr Lidington said: "It seems that a police officer has been stabbed, that the alleged assailant was shot by armed police. "An air ambulance is currently attending the scene to remove the casualties. "There are also reports of further violent incidents in the vicinity of the Palace of Westminster but I hope colleagues on all sides will appreciate that it'd be wrong of me to go into further details until we have confirmation from the police and from the House security authorities about what is going on."
  11. the BBC are reporting an incident at the houses of parliament, containing people being mowed down by a car, a PC being stabbed And an asailant being shot, it not at all clear who or why, but looks bad
  12. Reports of shots outside UK Parliament 22 March 2017 From the section UK Shots are reported to have been fired close to the Houses of Parliament in central London. Politicians and journalists have tweeted about hearing loud crashes outside the buildings, Witnesses said they saw people being treated for wounds and reported seeing a man with a knife in the grounds. Staff inside Parliament were told to stay inside their offices. The BBC's Laura Kuenssberg said police told her someone had been shot. She said MPs had told her they heard "three or four gunshots". Tom Peck, political editor for the Independent, tweeted: "There was a loud bang. Screams. Commotion. Then the sound of gunshots. Armed police everywhere." Scotland Yard said it was called to a firearms incident on Westminster Bridge amid reports of several people injured. Transport for London said Westminster underground station has been shut at the police's request. View the full article
  13. Chapter 2para 4& 6 amongst others. They relate to indentifying people to whom communication have been sent. Ie you contact list, call records Facebook messenger etc
  14. I think that it was the only way, to make the peace process with people you had distaist for and wait for them to die, so you can move forwards with people who had a less controversial past, . We did it many many times with various persons towards the end of the empire, one minute a terrorist then a president/ prime minister and our best friends
  15. thanks for the reply,, there are as you know a list of offensive weapons per se that does indeed include death stars and knuckleduster's, but not chucks. So its not a simple case of saying it is most definitely an off wep. You would need to prove your case. It's not for the accused to show he has some rice to flail, but for the prosicution to show that his chucks not chucks in general were made designed or adapted to cause harm. For as you state, practise chucks that would only cause light injury if used offensively are not prohibited. Though having hit myself on the head with practise and legal chucks, I can assure you that they hurt quite a lot so.. As he has made designed and addapted these chucks himself for the direct use as a practise tool. It would seem That you would have difficulty showing that he made designed or addapted them to cause serious injury let's take another ancient weapon as comparison. The quarter staff, basically a long thin round length of wood. If he made his own out of a broom handle and was seen twirling it round in the park, you couldnt just say that's off wep and prosicute with out showing his intent in adapting it, is taking the brush of it, was to use it to cause injury
  16. Totally jumping on this if it makes it up to Lancs Constab!
  17. MOP reports an offence. You attend and speak to the Aggrieved who tells you the what has happened, identities the Offender, but doesn't wish to pursue the matter further. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
  18. Let me rewrite that scenario.... A patriot (Joe) decides to visit their favourite fast food restaurant and sing the national anthem of the UK after finishing his food and walking outside. An employee (John) asks Joe to desist on the grounds of it being against their policy. Joe ignores John on the grounds that he has no authority on the public footpath so John gives Joe another chance to stop before the Police are called. Joe again ignores John at which point the Police are called. The Police Operator listens to John and then tells him that singing the national anthem is not really a matter for the Police and nor is enforcing the policies of local fast food outlets. She asks John if he has anything of substance to report and John says "No." The operator explains to John that she really needs to clear the line now as calls may be coming in from members of the public who really do need the Police. John goes home and reflects on why he finds a song that decent British people have been singing for generations so offensive and why he thinks the Police should put a stop to such things. The reasons elude him.
  19. Nunchaku and shuriken are offensive weapons per-se. The nunchaku may have once been intended as a rice flail and adapted as a weapon by the Japanese peasantry who were not allowed to carry "weapons", but today it's only purpose is as a weapon. A rubber or plastic harmless version is not a weapon any more than a child's plastic sword is. If it's :- A) Made, adapted or intended for use as a weapon - It's an offensive weapon. B) An offensive weapon per-se (an item that is by it's primary design and use a weapon- shuriken, katana,mace, knuckleduster) - It's an offensive weapon with no need to prove the made/adapted/intended element. Then you have some extra catch alls with the bladed or pointed article legislation. Apply the above and you should be able to answer pretty much any "is this a..." question. HMS
  20. The bias in the tone of the above article causes me considerable distaste.
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  22. Pass it on to CID Next.
  23. A rogue bank manager decides to raid the safe from his workplace - Bank X and borrow £1000 to gamble at the local casino. He plans to return the money and keep his profits. However he ends up loosing his entire bankroll and has no means of paying back any of the money. His deputy checks the safe and finds it to be empty. He then contacts corporate headquarters directly as he suspects that the manager has gone rogue and stolen all of the money. Corporate headquarters contact the Police. You attend the branch to investigate the suspected theft and ask the bank manager if he saw anything. He then admits everything that's happened. Any offences?
  24. Devon and Cornwall Police advertised for a "drone team manager". A police force is to launch a round-the-clock drone unit to help tackle crime. Devon and Cornwall Police advertised for a "drone team manager" to set up and manage an "operational and dynamic drone response" from nine policing centres across the two counties and Dorset. The force began trialling drones in November 2015 to test their operational effectiveness, using four DJI Inspire 1 devices with high-definition cameras to assist officers with police matters such as looking for missing people and taking crime scene photographs. Assistant Chief Constable Steve Barry, National Police Chiefs' Council lead for drones, said forces were "committed to embracing new technologies to deliver high-quality, cost- effective services and protection to the public". "Drones are one of a number of options that can deliver air support both now and in the future. "They have the potential to change the way we police by working with other technologies and updating traditional methods of foot and aerial patrols. "Trials and consultations are ongoing to develop more guidance for how the police service can use drones to help keep people safe." Mr Barry added: "Deploying drones is a decision for individual chief constables who ensure that they are used appropriately in the interest of public safety and efficient allocation of police resources." Around 21 police forces are experimenting with the technology. Chief Superintendent Jim Nye, strategic alliance commander for operations in Devon, Cornwall and Dorset, said the drones would be a "significant piece of kit", which would provide an "opportunity to improve technology available to police to better do what we do". Earlier this year, Labour MP Nick Smith said police should consider using drones to track down off-road bikers who are "vandalising" the mountains of Wales. During Home Office questions in the Commons, he said: "Because off-road bikers often go where the police cannot, can the Home Office look into providing resources, agreement and licencing on the use of drones to help us tackle this problem?" View on Police Oracle
  25. I can't see how this is a scenario that would be useful to the visitors to this website, therefore I am assuming it is a personal matter and locking the topic.
  26. This topic has been locked as it is clearly a request for advice on a situation that happened.
  27. Sorry that I wasn't clear. I've amended the scenario to reflect what happened.
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